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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7589 Location: Derby
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2026 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Loose Bulb |
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| bjacko wrote: | | Have you tried a small coil spring to keep it against the glass? |
That is what I have had to do with the fuel low level warning light. I seem to remember doing the same with the oil pressure warning light.
Today I will be trying to do something similar with the indicators light. The difficulty I had yesterday was in that it is a different shape bulb. This one is narrower and straight sided so finding a spring that will stay in place is more tricky and unlike the other bulbs, this one seems to need pressure applied on one side.
I expect it will keep me occupied for a while.  |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7589 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2026 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Having fixed the warning light and checked out that everything else on the dashboard works O.K., I struggled to get the leather edge that is trapped by the chrome bezel out of the hole but eventually I succeeded in making a neat job of it.
Since then, I have been going over the car tightening things up etc. I noticed that the front valance bolts (chrome) were quite loose and needed tweaking. The n/s front wing also seemed a bit loose. I had missed out one of the two 10mm bolts that secures the side light but when replaced, all the movement evaporated.
Then I noticed a flaw in the paint. It was only small so I attempted to buff it out ...only to make matters worse. It was now highly visible so I have been forced to mask off the area again and get painting again.
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JC T ONE
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1199 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| Ray White wrote: | Having fixed the warning light and checked out that everything else on the dashboard works O.K., I struggled to get the leather edge that is trapped by the chrome bezel out of the hole but eventually I succeeded in making a neat job of it.
Since then, I have been going over the car tightening things up etc. I noticed that the front valance bolts (chrome) were quite loose and needed tweaking. The n/s front wing also seemed a bit loose. I had missed out one of the two 10mm bolts that secures the side light but when replaced, all the movement evaporated.
Then I noticed a flaw in the paint. It was only small so I attempted to buff it out ...only to make matters worse. It was now highly visible so I have been forced to mask off the area again and get painting again.
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Lock Tite can help on this.
Yes I am afraid we have all done that I have a dent in my rear wing, that I still havent tried to fix
Jens Christian _________________ http://www.eurods.eu/wp/index.html |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7589 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| JC T ONE wrote: | | Ray White wrote: | Having fixed the warning light and checked out that everything else on the dashboard works O.K., I struggled to get the leather edge that is trapped by the chrome bezel out of the hole but eventually I succeeded in making a neat job of it.
Since then, I have been going over the car tightening things up etc. I noticed that the front valance bolts (chrome) were quite loose and needed tweaking. The n/s front wing also seemed a bit loose. I had missed out one of the two 10mm bolts that secures the side light but when replaced, all the movement evaporated.
Then I noticed a flaw in the paint. It was only small so I attempted to buff it out ...only to make matters worse. It was now highly visible so I have been forced to mask off the area again and get painting again.
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Lock Tite can help on this.
Yes I am afraid we have all done that I have a dent in my rear wing, that I still havent tried to fix
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This is yet another situation where because I have inherited a huge quantity of spring and shake proof washers (Some time ago I inherited the remains of a working garage from my Dad) I never reach for the lock Tite.
The paint job I was doing is finished but I have now been drawn to another area that could be improved. The n/s corner of the scuttle where top front corner of the door meets the body looks decidedly ropey. As it is immediately in front of the passenger seat I think it ought to be blemish free. It won't take long.
( Famous last words!
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2225 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 10:09 am Post subject: |
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I also have tried, with success, silicon RTV for keeping nuts & bolts tight, & in situ...especially underneath.
Merely squeezing a tiny blob over a nut, or exposed bit of thread, can stop it undoing inadvertently.
The main advantage in my eyes being, to eventually undo, all one needs to do is peel off the silicon.....
I recall seeing a GT6 underneath, with a multitude of orange blobs....Dismantling the thing would have been easy..the orange blob identified where a fixing was, and once peeled off, there was a reasonably clean thread to help the undoing.
Although I'm not recommending orange a a colour, of course..but if one's Loctite is past its 'use-by' date, then a small blob of silicon is better than forgetting about it. _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7589 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 10:44 am Post subject: |
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The reason for those loose nuts and bolts is simply that I have not tightened them. The front wings and valance have had to come off several times and as I am suffering with memory loss the final tightening got forgotten.
I am also easily distracted which doesn't help.
I can only hope I have not forgotten something vital...
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4360 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Ray White wrote: | The reason for those loose nuts and bolts is simply that I have not tightened them. The front wings and valance have had to come off several times and as I am suffering with memory loss the final tightening got forgotten.
I am also easily distracted which doesn't help.
I can only hope I have not forgotten something vital...
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May be worth checking the nut behind the steering wheel  |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7589 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: |
May be worth checking the nut behind the steering wheel  |
Too far gone I'm afraid.  |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7589 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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This morning I noticed a strong smell of petrol.
...No...surely not???
Well yes . The sender unit seal - a new rubber one - is leaking!
I could hardly believe that all my work has been in vain. The new paint is ruined. Again!
I could cry.
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2225 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | May be worth checking the nut behind the steering wheel |
The above has just reminded me of a Youtube channeler whose short video I caught the other day.
Obviously a bit of a tyro when it came to old vehicles, he has a Standard 10 [or, 8 in disguise?]...upon which he has doubtless spend many pension-quids on having it got up & running, etc by a local garage.
His complaint was the discovery the steering wheel wobbled on its shaft.
The entire video was spent doing an indignation act because of what was perceived as a gross safety issue perpetrated by 'someone' in the car's past.
MAde me wonder, did he actually realise that a Standard 10 from the 1950's was going to be 70 years old if a day, with possibly a dozen or so previous 'owners,' most of whom obtained it because it would have been cheap, and thought of it as fodder for simply running into the ground, before passing it on??
Nobody in the past 60 years or so probably thought about the 'classic car' fashion that abounds these days.
So if the steering wheel nut didn't 'snug down' for some reason, or kept coming undone, they reckoned, for their needs and to be cheap...why not fill the void around the nuts with silicon rubber, and at the same time, put a spot weld or two on the nut to stop it coming undone.
No thought would have been given to how a future classic car 'enthusiast' would want to sort the issue out 'properly!'
To indulge in a tirade against previous owners...without thought as to their motives [like, trying to compare life on the financial edge in the 1960's was so very different to today?]...is rather 'missing het point!'
It really is something to remember before taking pops at all the previous owners , for the bodges and 'fixes' one comes across today.
Doubtful any of them had the same motives for repairs as we do today.eh? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7589 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I have started the draining down process. First the spare wheel has to come off. This is done by knocking the spinner anticlockwise, until the assembly can be withdrawn. This, is to my mind, is a wonderful piece of engineering; involving a spring loaded key that ensures the MG logo remains upright regardless of the position of the spinner once it is fully tightened,
Next the spare wheel carrier is removed. This is a heavy duty 3 piece tubular structure bolted to the chassis rails and the rear cross member. Again, a very nice, solid part of the car.
With the spare wheel and carrier out of the way there is better access to the drain tap.
(This is a lever arm ball valve; part of the new electronic hydrostatic petrol gauge system that I added to compliment the original low level warning light.)
Despite the limited ground clearance there is just sufficient space to allow an old washing up bowl to be slid under the drain tap without having to raise the car. While doing this work I have been wearing protective gloves and taking care not to spill petrol on the ground.
When enough of the petrol has been drained out, the supply and earth wires can be removed from the sender unit along with the six perimeter screws. With the sender unit out, I can check the area for flatness.
A new cork gasket is on order but while awaiting delivery, I can mask off the area and remove the petrol ruined paint and prepare for spraying.
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bjacko
Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Posts: 573 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 8:29 am Post subject: Continually redoing tasks |
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Ray, your efforts remind me of the tale of Robert Bruce and the spider our teacher told us about 1948. Where he continually fought on after watching a spider keep remaking it's web over and over, until it got it right. he went on and won the battle! _________________ 1938 Morris 8 Ser II Coupe Utility (Pickup)
1985 Rover SD1 VDP |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7589 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Continually redoing tasks |
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| bjacko wrote: | | Ray, your efforts remind me of the tale of Robert Bruce and the spider our teacher told us about 1948. Where he continually fought on after watching a spider keep remaking its web over and over, until it got it right. he went on and won the battle! |
I was thinking more along the lines of Monty Python
"tis but a scratch"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7589 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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The surface appears to be flat enough so I would think the fault lies with the rubber gasket.
Next time it will be good old cork!
Anyway, with the area rubbed down and masked off the next job is to apply a couple of primer coats. Being stainless steel, I am using a 'Jenolite' primer which is specifically designed for "difficult surfaces".
Here we go again!...
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norustplease

Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 850 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2026 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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What kind of paint are you using? Most automotive finishes are petrol resistant, apart from oil based coach type paint. _________________ 1953 Citroen Traction
1964 Volvo PV544
1973 VW Beetle 1303L
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