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alastairq
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| Quote: | | I expect that is why we have an M.O.T. test........ Just in case.? ! |
There lies the major problem with any ''MoT test'' regulation!
It is a ''once a year, or once every few years'' check, not a 'continuous' check.
As a young person, when out driving ['60's/'70's] , a brake light out....especially on a Friday night.....could guarantee being 'pulled over'' by a Police Officer.
Nowadays, traffic enforcement..if not conducted by technology, is a matter of expediency.
Roadworthiness is a matter of the drivers' courtesy. Hoping that a large minority of us drivers actually can be relied upon to take our duties as licence holders, seriously.
Even though, whilst trying to take our duties seriously, we might [too often?] get those duties seriously out of kilter.
Often getting the wrong end of the stick in those matters.
Perhaps [in the UK?} we have arrived at the state of thinking, ''what harm will it do?''
Rather than, ''what does the Law say?''
I also suspect, too many of us drivers simply revert to ''what is convenient for us?''
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norustplease
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Location: Lancashire
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2026 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Electric cars will be responsible for increasing numbers of the deaths on the road, as most, even the small economy cars, have lightning acceleration, and so many seem to be driven too fast in inappropriate road conditions. So, I suspect that as they filter down through the automotive food chain and start to take over from the 6+ year old Audis and BMW's that so many younger drivers aspire to, you will see even more lunatic high speed driving on the roads.
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Ray White
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Location: Derby
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2026 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| norustplease wrote: | | Electric cars will be responsible for increasing numbers of the deaths on the road, as most, even the small economy cars, have lightning acceleration, and so many seem to be driven too fast in inappropriate road conditions. So, I suspect that as they filter down through the automotive food chain and start to take over from the 6+ year old Audis and BMW's that so many younger drivers aspire to, you will see even more lunatic high speed driving on the roads. |
Absolutely. Electric cars are also dangerous in another way. They are virtually silent. Our lane has constant noise from the A38. It is sufficiently loud to completely obscure the sound - such as there is - of an electric car approaching.
The other day I had not noticed a Tesla approaching from behind and it drove past me fairly quickly. I was shocked at how close it came; brushing my arm as it shot past.
I am now much more careful. |
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JC T ONE
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Location: Denmark
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2026 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| alastairq wrote: | | Quote: | | I expect that is why we have an M.O.T. test........ Just in case.? ! |
There lies the major problem with any ''MoT test'' regulation!
It is a ''once a year, or once every few years'' check, not a 'continuous' check.
As a young person, when out driving ['60's/'70's] , a brake light out....especially on a Friday night.....could guarantee being 'pulled over'' by a Police Officer.
Nowadays, traffic enforcement..if not conducted by technology, is a matter of expediency.
Roadworthiness is a matter of the drivers' courtesy. Hoping that a large minority of us drivers actually can be relied upon to take our duties as licence holders, seriously.
Even though, whilst trying to take our duties seriously, we might [too often?] get those duties seriously out of kilter.
Often getting the wrong end of the stick in those matters.
Perhaps [in the UK?} we have arrived at the state of thinking, ''what harm will it do?''
Rather than, ''what does the Law say?''
I also suspect, too many of us drivers simply revert to ''what is convenient for us?'' |
Yes lots of things have changed over the years.
Here you get a fine on 1000 Danish kroner for a missing light, or a worn tyre (less than 1,6mm thread, and they just add up for each worn tyre or bulp missing, so that can cost you a LOT of money.
Jens Christian
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JC T ONE
Joined: 30 Oct 2008
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Location: Denmark
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2026 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| norustplease wrote: | | Electric cars will be responsible for increasing numbers of the deaths on the road, as most, even the small economy cars, have lightning acceleration, and so many seem to be driven too fast in inappropriate road conditions. So, I suspect that as they filter down through the automotive food chain and start to take over from the 6+ year old Audis and BMW's that so many younger drivers aspire to, you will see even more lunatic high speed driving on the roads. |
Agree - the news overhere report on increase in damage from ev,s driving into the rear of the car infront of them because of that acceleration.
Many also get car sick because of it.
Jens Christian
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JC T ONE
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Location: Denmark
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2026 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| Ray White wrote: | | norustplease wrote: | | Electric cars will be responsible for increasing numbers of the deaths on the road, as most, even the small economy cars, have lightning acceleration, and so many seem to be driven too fast in inappropriate road conditions. So, I suspect that as they filter down through the automotive food chain and start to take over from the 6+ year old Audis and BMW's that so many younger drivers aspire to, you will see even more lunatic high speed driving on the roads. |
Absolutely. Electric cars are also dangerous in another way. They are virtually silent. Our lane has constant noise from the A38. It is sufficiently loud to completely obscure the sound - such as there is - of an electric car approaching.
The other day I had not noticed a Tesla approaching from behind and it drove past me fairly quickly. I was shocked at how close it came; brushing my arm as it shot past.
I am now much more careful. |
Agree - they creep up on you, and you sometimes get a minor chock 
And that sound they put on some sounds like a sick hen, that cant push out the next egg -
Jens Christian
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ukdave2002
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2026 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| Ray White wrote: | | Incidentally, a voluntary M.O.T. test is still available here - with all the age related exemptions that made it such a British thing - but there seems to be very little interest in it. |
| alastairq wrote: | Hardly surprising, really.
MoT's nowadays seem to be controlled by what the computer demands.
It being the only way the MoT, and the DVSA, can keep pace with advancing technologies.
Present a 1950's Morris Minor to be 'tested,' and the computer is totally dumbfounded. |
It's actually the reverse of this , MOT Testers (NTs) rely on a standardised inspection routine, but the MOT Testing Service (MTS) computer system plays a major behind-the-scenes role in tailoring rules for the test based on a vehicles age. The MTS system explicitly dictates things like emissions thresholds and what is required to be tested based on a car's "first used" date, These days the Tester doesn't have to rely on memory or spend ages thumbing through the testers manual to check that a main beam blue tell-tale (dashboard warning indicator) is only required for vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986.
I'm sure the system is not 100% perfect, it would for example have to know every vehicle weight for the brake test machine.
I took my (1974) Mini for a test yesterday, it passed  , I was surprised how much integration there now is with the MTS Computer these days with things like the emissions tester and brake tester during the test, e.g. for my cars emissions test, the system stated "Visual Smoke Test Only"
In advance of the MOT I went over the car and found the brake lights were not working, a faulty hydraulic brake switch, a simple fix , but I was only checking the brake lights because I was taking the car for an MOT, something I felt guilty about as clearly its my responsibility to have a roadworthy vehicle  |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
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Location: Derby
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2026 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| To be fair, those brake light switches are normally pretty reliable. Even the MG one I have been working on just now just keeps going ...although it is now 77 years old! |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2026 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | the system stated "Visual Smoke Test Only" |
I presume that a degree of common sense is expected of the tester, in that the 'visible smoke' [or its absence] should only be viewed from the tailpipe?? 
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ukdave2002
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2026 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| alastairq wrote: | | Quote: | | the system stated "Visual Smoke Test Only" |
I presume that a degree of common sense is expected of the tester, in that the 'visible smoke' [or its absence] should only be viewed from the tailpipe?? |
I hope so as it did not actually state if smoke or not was a pass  |
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JC T ONE
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 5:31 am Post subject: Photo session |
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Here is a few pictures from last week, when we dressed up, in order to have some new pictures taken with the 122S.
Big thanks to Emilie & Wilma for great company  and Deepak our photographer.
Jens Christian
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Penguin45
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There's a tin? You'll be telling me there's a car next...
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