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buzzy bee

Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: What paint |
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Hi
What paint should I use?
Cellulose?
2 pack - too shiny?
what kit do I need to paint with, saying this, I know I need a compressor, and a gun etc, but what types do people use? I have used Devilbiss, at work, but what do I need?
Simple walk through of the stages people do, including prep stages nd paint layers etc?
How much paint will I need to paint the ford?
Cheers
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4240 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Dave
At the end of the day its about what you are after, is it to look like a working truck or something Ford would have aspired to put on a motor show stand ?
I guess you are after the former! .
I think the thing to remember about painting is that us amateurs have different requirements to professionals, a pro need to turn something round asap, where as we enjoy working on our projects, so time is no where near as critical, that said you will probably want to rule out a bare metal respray !
In terms of the paint choice cellulose or 2 pack (and both are available locally) my preference is 2 pack because;
You only need a couple of coats where as cellulose will need several, and in an amateurs garage that increases the chance of contaminating the paint.
With flat colours I find it easier to rectify paints faults like orange peel with 2 pack rather than cellulose (that may just be me!!)
2 pack is a tougher paint although when it does chip it craters! (not so authentic!!)
There seems to be a lot less “mist” with 2 pack (again this might be me!)
You can control the amount of shine, so it doesn’t have to look artificially plastic
The downside being ;
Its nasty stuff
You will need twice the size of compressor to feed the mask as well, although you can get 3M 28 day masks
It may not be practical to paint at home because you may endanger other folk or their pets!
2 years ago I painted my dads moggy in 2 pack , 1 litre was more than enough for 2 coats. I painted over the rubbed down existing top coat, and had some local areas where had done repairs which were primed with a Halfords grey aerosol primer, (if I had primed the whole car I would have used a 2 pack primer).
The gun I used was a £35 machine mart job, with the needle that they recommend for 2 pack , I did use a Devilbiss gun once, and got no better results!! May be a pro would have done!
The other paint worth looking at are the water based ones, I have no expirience of these, be useful if someone could post a pro's and cons for them?
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magic9r
Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 33
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:14 am Post subject: |
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If you're worried about 2-pack being too shiny discuss matting additive with your supplier, if he doesn't know what you're talking about find a supplier who knows his business.
Alternatively you can hand finish with a matting compound (used to take the gloss off for refinishing) do your desired level.
I've seen properly glazed and waxed celly look as shiny as anything, all things are possible.
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Nick |
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Comrade-Paul

Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 79 Location: NORWICH
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:56 am Post subject: |
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ukdave2002 wrote: |
The other paint worth looking at are the water based ones, I have no expirience of these, be useful if someone could post a pro's and cons for them?
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Water based is no good unless you have a baking oven or are spraying outside on a warm & windy day.
It needs a constant flow of warm air to dry it.
And you dont want to paint outside or you will be picking the flies and dust out.
You could do it one panel at a time using a large hair dryer to dry it.
Water based is also only a base coat and needs a 2k clear coat over the top still. _________________
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bob2
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 1728 Location: Malta
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly as Paul said and as far as I know solid colours are not available as water based just the same.
Hey buzzy how is it u r not using coach paint ?? |
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