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[Rick]

Saw this posted on the VSCC forum so thought I'd mention it here too:

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Stolen Vehicle : Jowett Short 2

Posted on H&H Auctions Website.

Stolen Vehicle Alert
Jowett Short 2 plus Dickey
Registration NE 5890

The car was stolen from a locked garage within a walled and steel gated courtyard in the West Midlands on the 10th or 11th January.

It is well known within the Jowett Car Club and was featured in the October 1994 issue of The Automobile magazine.

Any information would be appreciated by the West Midlands police on 0345 113 5000 (Reference 20-SW-6923K-11).
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[Richard H]

Any photographs?

I'd imagine a car like that is most likely to be stripped for parts as it would be virtually impossible to sell on - must be single-figure survivors?

Hope it turns up

[Salopian]

The price of scrap has increased of late - it seems even old batteries now have a reasonable value. You can tell by the number of people with Transits calling on me unannounced!
I very much hope thats not its fate.
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[MVPeters]

In a naive way, I am completely baffled why anyone would steal a car like this.
Or the blue Jag, or the car transporter, or the others we've seen recently.

It surely can't be for scrap, as it weighs nothing.
It surely can't be for parts, as, complete, it's better than anything you've got.
It surely can't be for a collector, however unscrupulous, as you can't show it to anyone.
It surely can't be for re-sale, as everyone knows about it.

I just don't understand.

Of course "I can't believe it's not butter" either.
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[FrazzleTC]

It's a real shame when such cars are stolen. I remember there was a blue one of these in classic car weekly a month or two ago. I really can't understand why anyone would steal it, unless it is wanted by a foreign collector, in which case it will be very difficult to trace.
As regards other recently stolen vehicles, I imagine that the Jag may well be banger raced, rendering the car untraceable and destroying someone's pride and joy which is tragic. The car transporter was probably for scrap, or possibly use by someone in a changed form. It's horrendous how many classics are stolen, but I really don't know what can be done, as from the description of the Jowett, it sounds like it was in secure storage.

[baconsdozen]

I must confess to being baffled too. Although valuble its worthless once stolen as it can't be resold or shown and it ways little enogh to be worth selling as scrap.
The only thing that would make sense is to sell the spares but there must be a limited demand for them anyway.
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[Riley Blue]

[Richard H]

Most old cars that get stolen are borderline classics which get nicked by joyriders as they're easy to steal. I reckon the Jag was taken for banger racing or possibly to weigh in, and the car transporter was probably exported. The Morris truck on the back may well come on the market with a new identity in a few years time, so keep your eyes peeled.

Very few vintage cars are stolen as there are simply too few survivors and they are too distinctive to sell on. Certainly in the case of the Jowett, I'd imagine most of the Jowett Club and the VSCC are looking for it, so it would be a particularly stupid thief to put it on the market or even to try and sell spares from it, as it would be obvious where they came from.

My guess is that he, or she, will sit on it for a few years before putting it up for sale as a 'barn find' with no identity - so keep an eye out!

[Roger-hatchy]

Stolen to order for export.
Won't be the first time a container has false paper work, or a little extra cargo in front of manifested cargo.
I had a holding order placed by the ministery on my Lorry and container, after a roadside weight check didn't tally, till the customs had been, emptied, sorted and removed contraband form a containter before I could continue my journey.
It has been known for part loaded containers to ship with no manifest.

Just hope the vehicle is found intact and undamaged.

[PAUL BEAUMONT]

Thanks to Rick and all others who have posted on this topic. I mentioned it a few days back under another posting.
I too am completely confused abouut this theft. Vintage Jowetts do not have any major value so storing it for a few years and then selling it as a Barn find would not seem to be a very lucrative venture.
I suspect that it was taken by someone who knows little about it and believes that it is worth a fortune.
Eastern Europe has been suggested as a market, but as has been mentioned this is well known car in Jowett circles so if it appears it will be recognised.
A copy of the Automobile mentioned is currently for sale on Ebay and the vendor has kindly posted a note about this on the site too.
It all goes to show that we need to be vigilant and if anyone is offered a motor , any motor, that seems to be a bit dodgy, then check it out with an owners club or the police.

Paul

[FredTransit]

[Minty]

Hello all,

I think it may well have been taken by someone with another car the same or similar, to use either for spares - or to repair/restore their own similar vehicle, or in order for it to take on the identity of a similar vehicle for which they hold a legitimate log-book/chassis number etc, but have no actual vehicle to put it on...

The 'ringing' of old cars was rife a few years ago, as their identiy's are easy to change, yet their history's are hard to trace.

Oh, and don't worry - I work on the 'correct' side of law enforcement, shall we say!

Regards - Guy.
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[Keith D]

Surely in this day and age, it must be possible to hide some sort of chip on a valuble car that will emit a radio signal enabling it to be located?

Is anything like this available on the market? If so, then maybe we should all be thinking of fitting one to each of our old cars.

Keith

[FredTransit]

The best idea I saw was using a tracker made from a PAYG mobile that was registered to a mobile phone tracking service.
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