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[hepcat]

Hi all,

I've just finished my latest illustrations: a Triumph Stag and a classic Morris Minor moggie.

Does anyone have any feedback on anything that doesn't look right on these?

These can be found at my website www.hepcatclassics.com


Thanks as always,

Hepcat




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[peter scott]

Hi HC,

The MM in the UK has white side lights at the front (two types) up until some time in the 60s when they changed to lamps with orange on top with a small white part below. Your headlamp rims don't look quite right and I don't think the M on the hub caps was originally painted. I think you are seeing too much of the front offside tyre. I suspect you wouldn't see any of it from the angle you've chosen, even without a number plate. Sorry, but the angle of the rear wheel looks like the car has rear wheel steering too. (The last picture for geometry only.)

HTH

Peter (Art critic & general pedant)






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[hepcat]

Morris Minors didn't come with rear wheel steering?

Thanks for the feedback, all taken on board for revisions. Cheers mate!
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[peter scott]

My apologies.


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[RobMoore]

Nice drawings, to add to the feedback re the minor.
Wheels would have been old english white for that year.
here is a link to the potteries site it has pretty much everything you need if you want accuracy.

Also I would like to add that if you changed the colour to Peat Brown it would look perfect

[peter scott]

http://potteries.mmoc.org.uk/

Life's never simple. The overiders place your car after August '61 so you'll need the larger of the two white side light types and the Old English White wheels.

Peter


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[alan 869]

....and now for the Stag

Again very well done. Would like a print in Inca Yellow when they are ready.

The bits on the car are a mix of Mk I and 2.

No body strip would suggest Mk I but Mk 1s didn´t have head rests. The blinkers at the front would say Euopean versions (well anyway not USA, which had all Orange blinkers - no side lights) BUT the body light-badge at the rear looks like it´s orange-red, which would be USA mod. Euro versons had the -Stag- logo badge, which would look silver with little black from a distance. The stainless sills... Mk 2 only. Grill badge looks like a grey background... Mk 1 (Mk 2...black).
Mk 1 would more usually have the rostyle type of hub caps, although the alloys in the pic could be got at extra cost. These wheels (alloys) were standard on the Mk 2.
Lastly, the drivers side windscreen wiper was of -Pantograph- type (extra arm), yours looks the same on both sides.

[Ellis]

Although I am just a newbie on your forum, I did however own Triumph Stags for over ten years and I consider your depiction to be a fine one.

There were in fact three types of Triumph Stag.
The Mark one, from 1970 to 1972 all had body coloured sills and rear panels.
The Mark two, 1972 to 1975 had black coloured sills and wheel finishers, or hub caps in black and chrome. The rear panels were black.
The final versions, 1975 on, Mark 3, if you like, all had alloy wheels as standard and the one in your illustration shows a stainless steel sill cover and would be one of these later ones.
There should be a silver coloured double body stripe, one deeper than the other below the door line if the car colour was Damask red or Pimento IIRC. Pimento coloured cars could have either black or silver body stripes, but Damask red ones were always silver. The rear panels reverted to body colour, not that this is shown here.

I hope this will be of some assistance to you.

[hepcat]

Thanks everyone, that is some incredibly comprehensive feedback on the Stag in particular!
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[alan 869]

[Ellis]

I agree. There were only two "official" versions, Mark 1 and 2 but I still maintain that there were three variants of the Stag and each with it's individual features.

It's interesting how each individual views colours. The previous shade of yellow, Mimosa, if you discount the mustard yellow one, -I had a Dolomite Sprint in Mimosa - was, to my eyes, less bright than the Inca Yellow which folllowed. But I preferred Inca Yellow as it was a much "cleaner" yellow.

My first Stag was a white auto - NJC 888M, followed by my second a 1976 man/od in Delft Blue MDE 501R. The latter I owned for nine and a half years until I sold it with a genuine 34000 miles on it's odometer to a young accountant from London.

Contemperaneously with the Stag, I owned a 1977 Triumph Dolomite Sprint, MJC 904R, in Tahiti Blue which to my eyes was a nicer colour.
The Stag featured on the front cover of the SOC magazine in March 1989 and I recall I did not get my photos or negatives back from the then editor, John Bird.

I do however have some good photos of MDE 501R and as soon as I learn how to transfer old style photos on to my pc I will post them on here.

[alan 869]

I also agree Just pulling your leg

The Mimosa was a duller colour, more -wishy washy- as you say. Inca Yellow much nicer (the same colour that the Swedish Post Office use )

Always fancied a Sprint. The Taihiti blue has been a favourite. Had a 1971 2.5PI in -maroon- colour. Bought it when it was 3 years old. Great fun. The front and back ends were just right (slightly better than the Dolomite, but only slightly).

Would like to see your photos. Will put up some as well when I´ve worked it out (must admit I don´t really like giving my pics away to Photobucket... but still) Alan PS A scanner is a good idea for getting old paper photos onto the computer..

[Ellis]

I never saw the blue Stag again after I sold it but the 1973 white auto is still in North Wales and was very well restored in the mid 1990s.
In many ways the older Stag, NJC 888M, was a better car than the second.
It had a far smoother engine and there was a mellowness about which was lacking in it's successor. The mileage was 55000 when I bought it in February 1979 and there was another Stag for sale at the old established BL garage I bought it from.
That was a Sienna Brown auto, PCC 14N IIRC and that had a mere 14000 miles on it's odometer and one owner from new. It was quickly snapped up by someone not unsurprisingly'.
In July 1980, after I had bought the blue Stag,I was offered a 1978 S registered Java green auto with a genuine 5000 miles but I had not long since bought the 29000 mile blue one privately from it's one lady owner.
It was for sale for a long time afterwards.

In the forthcoming days I will relate a story of a modified Stag with a Rover Vitesse 3.5 V8 which I drove in 1988.
I promise you that the tale is an interesting one!

[alan 869]

Look forward to it. I will contribute with a tale about engine number 67. Which has done about 80-100 miles but not in a Triumph. One of 5 motors bought by a car manufacturer for trials

[Rick]

The first (only) Stag I've ever been in lived near Conwy funnily enough, and I think the same chap has a different Stag now, and lives in Conwy itself last I heard. Just down the river from Betws-y-Coed.

RJ
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