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whiteshadow
Joined: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 78
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject: Paint Restoration |
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I've got an old '33 barn find. The paintwork has a wonderful age to it (see the thumbnail to the left!), with the colours all subtle and faded, and the pin stripe (now cream) fading in an out along the sides.
It looks good for an old car, except for some blistering and missing paint down to the metal.
I'm getting a a bit fed up seeing cars at shows which have a screamingly shiny paint job, and look like they were made yesterday and sprayed with two-pack.
So....I was thinking of doing some conservation on the paint, rather than just strip and spray. Anybody got any ideas?..Done it??
How would I get rid of the blisters?/Bare patches and blend it in?? |
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Timstopp
Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Posts: 98 Location: colchester, essex
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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I quite agree, far too many pre war cars are far too shiny, I had a similar dilemma on mine (I think mine might have been worse than yours) when I looked into doing the same my options were to preserve as is (oily rag) or repaint. It would not be possible to spray or patch at all with the original paint type and age/degradation. I eventually chose to coach paint with proper coach paint by hand, and the result whilst nice , also has a proper period feel to it (IMHO) It is quite easy, cheap and very satisfying, although by choice I would have left my paint original - good luck with whatever you decide _________________ North Essex,UK - Morris 8 tourer 1936 - Jaguar x350 |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22477 Location: UK
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whiteshadow
Joined: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 78
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22477 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I think that looks fabulous
I'd oily rag it, replace the glass where necessary, find some suitable tyres, sort the mechanicals, and leave the cosmetics alone. If you re-paint it, then it "shows up" the chrome, and then you start to think about a re-trim inside so that it all looks in keeping. Before you know it the costs will have spiralled, and a lot of the car's originality will have gone forever.
So long as structurally it's bob-on, I'd be very inclined to preserve it wherever possible as-is.
Great pics
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22477 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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PS I bought this Austin 10/4 a while back, in similar condition. Someone re-painted it in the 1950s, and the original paint shows in places, but I quite like the look of it. I cleaned and oily-ragged it. When I re-commission it, the plan is to keep it looking pretty much like it looks now, albeit with some tyres on it and a new hood
Someone recently sent me photos of a pre-war Humber in un-touched state too, and it looks like it'd respond very well to a similar treatment. A '32 Austin not far from here has its original paint and gets an annual wipe-over with WD40, and looks like a real time-warp car, original to the last rope door pull (bar service items).
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whiteshadow
Joined: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 78
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: Restoration |
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The mechanicals etc will be top-spec...
I can't wait to drive it. Got a 1947 Singer Roadster which keeps the blood pumping, but saloon really is a 'Time Warp' - Stood for 55 years -even the headlining and rear blind are original. I certainly don't want it looking like this '33 saloon
http://www.picturearchive.co.za/Images/large_1933+Singer+Nine+Saloon+f.jpg
Lovely though it is, it seems to have lost it's soul.
(and another thing, why do they never put the pin striping back - these little details are what make it!)
Just want a way to keep the worn patches, while reducing the effects of defects such as blisters. But I'll probably give it a go with the body as is, and I can always do the full pimp if it doesn't work out.
I realise it maybe me, but I just find that the highly polished classics don't seem real. Equally it does have to look like a car, not just a resto project. |
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Roger-hatchy
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 2135 Location: Tiptree, Essex
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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That looks a treat.
Be a shame to lose the originality.
As said, all polish and shiny restorations are OTT, and not even what the originals looked like.
Rick There is almost a twin to your little Austin in Margate.
Well Almost
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Castellated nut
Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 91 Location: Shropshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't tried it, but this stuff looks as though it could be just the job for 'oily rag' preservation: -
http://www.morrislubricants.co.uk/scripts/prodview.asp?idcat=81&idProduct=92
Not sure how easy it would be to get a single can, but you could ask Morris if there was someone in your area that uses it and get some from them. They are very helpful like that. |
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Dirty Habit
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 398 Location: West Midlands, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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It may have read it on this forum. I am sure that someone like Eastwood's had brought out some coating to preserve that "patina" look. _________________ 1964 International Harvester |
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StoneRoad
Joined: 04 Jan 2010 Posts: 74 Location: Haltwhistle.
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: paint conservation |
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I'ld try a product like a conservation wax, to preserve the patina on old paint......
we used it for some of the interior work on the chip van we restored for Beamish Museum. actually on wood, but I think it should be ok on painted metal.
If fotopic was working i'ld link to an image......
but it isn't so I can't, sorry! _________________ Saluton. mi estas fervojistino, kaj vi?
visit http://www.ipernity.com/doc/312383/album
to see what has been done! Perhaps we can do something for you? |
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baconsdozen
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1119 Location: Under the car.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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I've noticed that since the cold weather etc some micro blisters have come up on some of the doors on my Rover.They don't contain and fluid or water but look a nit unsightlt when the light catches them from the side.
I'm assuming they wont go away and rubbing down to the coat underneath and respraying is the only way to get rd of them,anyone any thoughts? _________________ Thirty years selling imperial hand tools for old machinery(Now happily retired). |
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47p2
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Microblisters are usually caused by water in the airlines when painting. For some reason unknown to me they don't appear straight after painting but some time later _________________ ROVER
One of Britain's Fine Cars |
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baconsdozen
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1119 Location: Under the car.
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RobMoore
Joined: 16 Jan 2011 Posts: 105 Location: Peterlee
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty much any polish you use is going to remove some paint to a degree.
I would give it a good poilish and once your happy with the brightness of the colour, protect the polish with a good carnuba based was protection, then all you need to do is clean the car occasionally and re-apply the wax protection. |
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