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Ironhead



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:50 am    Post subject: Deltic diesel engine Reply with quote

not sure if train stories are welcome on here Rick, Confused but i was interested in an item on the news this morning,a 1961/2 Deltic 2-stroke diesel engine,the Royal Scots Grey,has been pulled out of retirement to haul trains for GB Railfreight for the next few weeks as they are short of engines Surprised .i'm not a train spotter,but these are awesome engines!
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you lust after a Deltic you could always build your own... Wink

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brings back memories of me as a young lad in the 1970's on Newark station almost getting sucked of the platform by a Deltic as it went through on a non stopper at almost full speed, there was a white line painted on the platform about two yards back from the edge and you had to remain behind that to be safe, we used to stand dead on it and see who was brave enough to stay there as the train went through (A miss spent youth)
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: Deltic diesel engine Reply with quote

Ironhead wrote:
not sure if train stories are welcome on here Rick, Confused but i was interested in an item on the news this morning,a 1961/2 Deltic 2-stroke diesel engine,the Royal Scots Grey,has been pulled out of retirement to haul trains for GB Railfreight for the next few weeks as they are short of engines Surprised .i'm not a train spotter,but these are awesome engines!


Anything related to historic transport can go in this section, rail, nautical, whatever really so long as it's old Smile

I'm not well up on matters rail-related, but those Deltics do look the business Smile

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember getting invited aboard a Deltic loco in Glasgow Central station to see one in action. 18 cylinders in the length of 6. Shocked The driver offer to let us ride to London for a 'tenner'.

I read an article once thatt he New York fire department had commisioned one to drve a pump on an appliance that they reckoned would punch a hole in a skyscraper and get to the fire directly. I dont know if it ever got built. A question for Scotty?? I think it put out something like 3000 HP.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a deltic at Crewe station, they make an amazing sound!

Do they have 3 seperate cranks?

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Ironhead



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
I saw a deltic at Crewe station, they make an amazing sound!

Do they have 3 seperate cranks?

Dave
i think they have dave.2x18 cylinder engines
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I attended a fire in a Deltic at the 'Cally' yard in Springburn in the 1980's where the throttle had jammed wide open during a test and the only way they eventually could stop it was to throw a box of rags into the air intake trunking!

Needless to say the massive engine didn't take too kindly at being stopped dead and basically blew itself apart. What was particularly frightening was there was absolutely no room inside the engine compartment to access the burning areas. In the end up it was the skinniest fireman I had in the crew was sent crawling and squeezing himself along the very narrow inspection passage to put out the fires - a b*****r of a job! Confused

47Jag wrote:
I read an article once that the New York fire department had commisioned one to drive a pump on an appliance that they reckoned would punch a hole in a skyscraper and get to the fire directly. I dont know if it ever got built. A question for Scotty?? I think it put out something like 3000 HP. Art


You're right Art, there was a fire engine that used a Deltic engine, to be specific - a Napier-Deltic engine, 18 cylinder turbo-blown compression ignition, water cooled opposed piston type operating on a two stroke cycle and was one of a trio of trucks used by New York Fire Dept dedicated to this system -



This is the link to the story of this huge 1960's fire engine - "Super Pumper System"
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Ironhead



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is a class fire engine! better than our weedy ones Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three crankshafts, six pistons in each vertical plane.



Works like this-


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exbmc



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:20 pm    Post subject: deltic Reply with quote

Nice animation Roverdriver. For anyone interested, the engines were rated at 1650 bhp @ 1500 rpm. So with two of them, the Deltic loco's had 3300 bhp available. They did not drive directly, but powered two huge generators, which in turn powered the six traction motors. I think Thorneycroft (?) also used the engines in motor torpedo boats.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the deltic engine was also used in minesweepers as well apparantly
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