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An “Automatic Telescopic Caravan” (ATC) is for sale.................. down here in Oz
Said to be a faithful replica.
I know I've seen photos of an A.T.C. Somewhere....but I can't find it, maybe somebody in the UK can tell me from the photos how close to the original the replica is please.

It is on ebay … click here
And there are some photos of it on flickr

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[alan 869]

Looks really nice. Would have to have a vehicle that would match it though. How much is 16 thou dollars?

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G'day Alan,

Thanks for your response...... I found the photos I thought I had seen previously, they were in a magazines produced by the Historic Caravan Club. The layout of the interior of the van appears to be different to the original but still looks really vintage to me.

I think $16000.00 aussie dollars equates to around 112,097 Krona...or £10418.00....or 12611.00 Eur.

Are those prices more than you would expect to pay for a "reproduction" over there?.

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[alan 869]

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G'day Alan,

The bloke who built it claims to be a boat builder /cabinet maker.... and they usually have a few clues aye ?

It has payed a visit to one of our vintage caravan rallies...I didn't see it but apparently it impressed those who did.
It's probably worth the money considering the work put into building it but............. it is only a replica, and that is why I was asking people who have seen the real thing how close to the original they thought it was.

No mate I won't be buying it, like you said... I'd then have to buy a suitable car to compliment it

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[alan 869]

Understand mate. Repro never sounds as good as original I´m afraid. Does look very well done. Wondering how many pics of the original inside are about. Shirley Pippin, who was at least the historian for HCC had a wealth of liturature for vans. This one though is so -old- that there may not have been too many taken. I think the interior looks -right- even if it isn´t. If you get my drift

My SMV from 1949 is of course a lot younger but made roughly on the same principles. It was a complete wreck which was renovated by a cabinett maker over here. Luckilly the interior (even the original cushions) were saved so I know that it´s totally original. There are no brochures for it (first ones came 1951)

Will put up a couple of photos (don´t like photobucket ) How´s about doing a thread about you van (if you haven´t already done it )

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Alan mate,

The photos I found of that ATC were in the HCC's magazine “Historic Caravan Scene” issue 3..... there was an external photo of the ATC in issue 2 also. The photos of the interior of the one in the HCS magazine are different to the interior of the one down here, is why I wonder if she's a fair dinkum replica.

I did post a bit about the van I call Ol' 36 way back when I first introduced myself to this forum. Just recently she had a bit of a colour change as you can see in my avatar, the interior has had new cushions too, so I'll add photos of the inside to the original post...... when I get a round tuit .
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2444&highlight=australia

Another van you might find interesting that has been found down here in Oz is HERE .

Maybe you can add something to that discussion ? I think ...I'll try and find the link.... but I think that vogue has been restored.

Are you a member of the HCC Alan ?

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Your van is perfect. Only description that comes close to what I feel Did you ever get the history of it. Wonder if it was taken -abroad - by a -ten pounder- back in the day. Of course could be that the said -10 pounder (or meybe it was only 2/- 6s then) was an ex caravan builder and made a series of these when he got there.

Did you ever get the make. Something tells me it´s not an Atlas.... just a hunch.

I have got a few old caravan books so will have a look to see if there are any photos of it. And as has been said before, don´t EVER moderniize it

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Hi Bob the ATC in the HCC mag is the only know surviving example its owned by a local club member and is a lovely old van , having that pattina , that repo vans just dont have< this van was for sale a few years ago and the asking price around £4500 , makes the Aus van a bit pricey !
Alan i dont know if you are aware both Shirley and her partner Bob have both passed away now ....Regards OVM

[alan 869]

That does make me sad to hear That Shirley and Bob have gone. She was such a nice lady.

I seem to remember the van being for sale. I´ve too many things

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G'day Paul,

It is true isn't it ? Nothing can match the patina an old original has.
£4500 would have seen it snapped up real fast down here because we just don't have many vans of that vintage here.
What do you think about the authenticity of the reproduction one ? It does have a different layout inside doesn't it ?.

The article in issue 3 of the HCS said the ATC was sold in three sizes....7'6''....9'0'' and 12'0''..... do you know of any photos showing all three models ?

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Alan,

Some of us use the expression “Preserving Australia's Touring Heritage” and although our forum isn't as strict as the HCC in pursuing that ideal for the most part the really older caravans that are found are preserved without modification, so like you some of us believe it is a side of our culture that should be preserved.

“Calming museum”.....I've not heard of such a thing. Would yours have extended beyond the outdoors camping type of lifestyle ? Tell me more about it mate...sounds interesting.

The bloke who started our vintagecaravans.com web site in 2002 is building a museum in Western Australia, but it will be a display of “Australia's Touring Heritage” only...I think?
To incorporate a calming atmosphere into the display sounds like a good idea, not easy to do but.....a good idea.

Thanks for the description you gave Ol' 36..Perfect
Haven't got her history yet....1936 was a bit before the ten pound poms landed but she might have been built by a descendent of the convicts
I haven't been able to find any English brand caravan that she looks like, the “Airlite” from 1936 has some similarities..... more than most but still not right, I reckon the plans came from the mother country....out of some book or magazine around the 1930's but it hasn't come to light ......yet.

I've just had a look at the work you did on your vogue...looks perfect too, it's all good but I like the photo of the rear tail lights something to be proud of when you bring something back from the dead aye?

Tell us about the "Calming Museum" please Alan

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