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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject: Are they legal ? Reply with quote

A friend of mine who is a retired traffic policeman said that "A"frames and spec frames are now illegal for towing vehicles as they have no braking system and all cars must now be trailered. I had never heard of that one before. Is he right ? Seems a bit harsh to me. Confused Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Are they legal ? Reply with quote

marina estate wrote:
A friend of mine who is a retired traffic policeman said that "A"frames and spec frames are now illegal for towing vehicles as they have no braking system and all cars must now be trailered. I had never heard of that one before. Is he right ? Seems a bit harsh to me. Confused Confused


Yes, I believe he's spot on, any trailer over 750kgs must be braked and that applies to spec frames etc. There is a gubbins you can buy that hooks up to the towed vehicles brake pedal I think, but to be honest you may be better just sticking it on a proper trailer and be done with it. Keep within the regs as the cops are pretty clued up on towing rules these days....

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I right in saying Recovery is still allowed? It used to be.

Think it is mainly to target all of these motor homes who seem to tow their cars all over Europe on an A frame.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought recovery was ok too?

(handy things Wink)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
I thought recovery was ok too?

(handy things Wink)

R


Are you feeling lucky?

Note that there is a very specific difference between recovery and transportation. Recovery is the removal of a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. It does not include removing a rotor arm (for instance) and travelling the length and breadth of the country. The police are well aware of the difference due to the regulations covering Tachographs and Operators Licences. Recovery vehicles are exempt. If you're not a bona-fide trader then I'd guess that you're in trouble!

I suspect that this notion arises from the fact that traders can move vehicles without MOT, tax & Insurance with trade plates. A car being towed on a dolly is in contact with the road and thus requires the vehicle to be road legal under normal circumstances.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said - very handy things - for example when a rear driveshaft snapped on my (road legal) Morris leaving it stranded at the roadside last year.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Thes are the sorts of permanent fitted systems which the motorhomers can use, the bigger problems are for the occasional user.
http://www.caratow.com/system.php
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
Like I said - very handy things - for example when a rear driveshaft snapped on my (road legal) Morris leaving it stranded at the roadside last year.

RJ


Do you have a 'recovery vehicle' and are you a motor trader? The way I see it is that these are prerequisites to make it legal. Anything else and I suspect (if you're unlucky) VOSA will stop you and you won't be able to proceed.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, and no.

Hopefully I'll not need it too often.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed Embarassed "A" frame for sale !!!!!
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