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RotaryBri
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 465 Location: Warwick
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:36 am Post subject: Surprising size of cars today |
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I was talking to a classic car owning friend and he told me that he had approached some traffic lights, on red, and came up behind a very nice Austin 1800. He then noticed a brand new Ford Focus beside the 1800 in the next lane. He could not believe that the Focus was bigger than the 1800.
I could not believe it either as I had previously owned a Wolseley 1885S and a Six and remembered how roomy they were.
I looked up the sizes and he was right:
Austin 1800 Length 4200mm Width 1700mm Height 1410mm
Ford Focus Length 4358mm Width 2010mm Height 1484mm
So, in old money, a Focus is over 6'' longer, over 12'' wider and 2.5'' higher and modern houses have even smaller garages today.
It makes you think doesn't it. _________________ Keep Torqueing,
RotaryBri
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Riley Blue
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1751 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| It makes me think that I'm grateful for the crumple zones and other safety features today's cars have. |
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Rick Site Admin

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22838 Location: UK
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clan chieftain

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 2041 Location: Motherwell
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: |
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I never really noticed it before. The marina looks very narrow.Its much the same width as my wee Suzuki Alto. _________________ The Clan Chieftain |
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peter scott

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7219 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I was quite surprised to find that my Mondeo is very similar in size and weight to my SS. Even the gear ratios are similar!
Peter
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Mondeo TDCi 130* | SS Jaguar 2½ ltr | SS Jaguar 3½ ltr
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Length | 15' 7” | 15' 6” | 15' 6”
Height | 4' 9” | 5' 1” | 5' 1”
Width | 5' 11” | 5' 6” | 5' 6”
Wheelbase | 9' | 10' | 10'
Front Track | 5' | 4' 6” | 4' 6”
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Weight | 31.3 cwt | 32 cwt | 32 cwt
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Max Power | 128 bhp | 104 bhp | 125 bhp
Max Torque | 245 lb-ft | 135 lb-ft | 185 lb-ft
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1st mph/1000 | 5.74 | 5.6 | 5.96
2nd mph/1000 | 9.48 | 9.54 | 10.16
3rd mph/1000 | 14.2 | 14.68 | 15.64
4th mph/1000 | 20.9 | 20.16 | 21.48
5th mph/1000 | 28.74 | |
6th mph/1000 | 35.82 | |
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30-60 in 4th | 8.5 sec | 15 sec | 14.5 sec
30-60 in 5th | 14.2 sec | - | -
0-60 mph | 9.5 sec | 17 sec | 14 sec
Max Speed | 129 mph | 87 mph | 92 mph
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Fuel Cons. | 48 mpg | 19 mpg | 18 mpg |
_________________ https://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4880 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I first noticed it back in the 70s
Contrast and compare:
Viva HA - HB - HC
or
Cortina
Mk 1 - Mk 2 - Mk 3 - Mk 4 etc
Manufacturers seem to be doing it all the time. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
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emmerson
Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 1268 Location: South East Wales
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| have you noticed the size of a Vauxhall Astra? It's now bigger than the original Vectra! |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4287 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| emmerson wrote: | | have you noticed the size of a Vauxhall Astra? It's now bigger than the original Vectra! |
And the corsa is now bigger than my 80's astra! |
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62rebel
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 343 Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:36 am Post subject: |
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anything to do with the size of the drivers and passengers, i wonder....
of course, we have the same issue over here..... no wonder we seem to need 500bhp to get to the grocer's......
hee hee hee.... _________________ nothing is ever so far gone as to be unsalvageable. see this bolt?..... |
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mikeC

Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1815 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| Penman wrote: | Hi
...Manufacturers seem to be doing it all the time. |
Think Austin too: compare Austin Sevens from say 1925, 1929, 1933, 1936... and they even tried to sell the Big Seven as the Ruby's replacement. |
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Scotty
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 883
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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I was reading in Auto Express a few issues ago that there's an increasing call to make parking bays longer than the government's recommended size as modern cars are beginning to project over the bay dividing lines even when well parked.
Of course, then you have the Green Meanies (Glasgow traffic wardens) booking you for being outside the allotted space - give me strength!  |
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P3steve
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 542 Location: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Just look at the latest Mini's! _________________ If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off |
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Kelsham
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 349 Location: Llandrindod Wells Powys
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Compare the room inside though, I run a Morris 1800 and am always surprised at how much space there is for passengers.
It looks like a small car against the moderns from outside.
Probably my favourite car to drive, that in spite of owning a Jaguar XJS Cabriolet.
The Jaguar is the opposite, big outside but packed to the gills with machinery.
The 1800 can be driven to the limit in imperturbable safety.
The Jaguar can bite back. Going off topic sorry.
Kels. |
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peppiB
Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Kelsham wrote: | Compare the room inside though, I run a Morris 1800 and am always surprised at how much space there is for passengers.
It looks like a small car against the moderns from outside.
Probably my favourite car to drive, that in spite of owning a Jaguar XJS Cabriolet.
The Jaguar is the opposite, big outside but packed to the gills with machinery.
The 1800 can be driven to the limit in imperturbable safety.
The Jaguar can bite back. Going off topic sorry.
Kels. |
Agree. My 1800 is my daily driver. So much more room than in my Merc |
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Phil - Nottingham

Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1252 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I agree even small modern cars take up far more raod space with far less interior space (and comfort)
Progress  _________________ Rover P2
Rover P4
Rover P5 & P5B
Land Rover S2 & S3
Morris Mini Traveller Mk2 |
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