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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:22 pm    Post subject: Parts washer / degreaser Reply with quote

So, i have bought a fancy parts washer. I need to fill it with some degreaser and it will no doubt take several gallon.
Being a tight arse, what is the most cost effective (cheap) degreaser?

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dalbuie



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used this in my washer;

http://www.bilthamber.com/cleaning-and-degreasing/surfex-hd

not the cheapest but the best degreaser I've used. I mixed it 1:5 in the washer but have some neat if I want to give something a soak first.
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47p2



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dalbuie wrote:
I used this in my washer;



How does it compare to Jizer?
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stopped using the water based degreasers for a couple of reasons:

Firstly they didn't seem as good...... Ok that's only an anecdotal view, secondly they get contaminated, if the washer isn't used for a few weeks and the lid is left closed, horrible stuff grows Sad and then blocks the filters Sad

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dalbuie



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it better than Jizer, seems to work better - and smells better.

There is a build up of 'mould' if unused, but it floats and is easily removed with an old fish net.
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BigJohn



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a parts degreaser as a present, and with it came some Machine Mart bio whatever degreaser. It is basically citric acid, I find it is pretty poor compared to good old red diesel, but, if the parts are left over night in a bucket of it, surprisingly good, and citric acid crystals can be bought at your local chemist or off the internet cheaply.
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigJohn wrote:
I got a parts degreaser as a present, and with it came some Machine Mart bio whatever degreaser. It is basically citric acid, I find it is pretty poor compared to good old red diesel, but, if the parts are left over night in a bucket of it, surprisingly good, and citric acid crystals can be bought at your local chemist or off the internet cheaply.


Ah, i can get as much red diesel as i need. Does it work ok and does it leave an oily residue?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I wouldn't eat off anything I cleaned! But most of the stuff I use it for I then clean up further as you would normal metal for painting or polishing, I tend to use meths or IPA, that's alcohol not India Pale Ale.
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JohnDale



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find kerosene is as good as anything & as I have oil fired heating I have a
tank of it handy. As an apprentice we used Jizer & I couldn't eat my tea when I went home because of the smell on my skin(yes after a shower) It seemed to permeate through clothes. I will not be rushing to buy any now,cheers,JD.
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ka



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:35 am    Post subject: cleaner Reply with quote

Kerosene is red diesel isn't it?
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Roger-hatchy



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerosene is a registered trade mark, It's parrafin with a trade name
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ka



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:20 am    Post subject: Kerosene Reply with quote

Yes you are right, it is heating oil and diesel that share many similar properties, (the amount of tax being a different one).
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think i will go for some of the citric based fluid. On reflection i think diesel or parrafin etc may be to smelly for the garage?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,kerosene is cleaner than paraffin, more purified, similar to Avtur, jet engine fuel, while diesel is a heavier oil, even the red known as gas oil,
which is diesel with a red dye in it, so the Customs can tell if you run a road licenced vehicle on it. Cheers,JD.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paraffin is good for getting really dirty, oily stuff clean but it does leave an oily residue that then needs degreased etc if you plan to paint or treat with something else.
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