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Phil - Nottingham
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No - use SEARCH!
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peter scott
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The rattle in the tank only works as well as faith healing.
If you want to have leaded petrol then read this http://tetraboost.com/info/faq/
I think there is a general feeling on this forum that nobody has noticed any VSR from running old cars on unleaded petrol.
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Roger-hatchy
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 I love this bit
ONE FINAL POINT IF YOU LEAVE YOUR CAR OR MOTOR CYCLE FOR MONTHS ON END WITHOUT USING IT THE FORMULA POWER FUEL CATALYST WILL KEEP THE FUEL FRESH AND STOP IT BECOMING STALE
Has anyone EVER had fuel go stale, leaded or otherwise.
If you leave it lying around on the floor, or an open receptacle, it might disappear |
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Phil - Nottingham
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I agree and in fact I have not heard any stories of VSR apart from the Practical Motorist test over 10 years ago on an Austin 1800 B series which failed (and on the pellets too) but then it was driven hard too.
Many older cars need no conversion anyway for various reasons
Has there been a poll on this
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Jim.Walker
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| Roger-hatchy wrote: | I love this bit
ONE FINAL POINT IF YOU LEAVE YOUR CAR OR MOTOR CYCLE FOR MONTHS ON END WITHOUT USING IT THE FORMULA POWER FUEL CATALYST WILL KEEP THE FUEL FRESH AND STOP IT BECOMING STALE
Has anyone EVER had fuel go stale, leaded or otherwise.
If you leave it lying around on the floor, or an open receptacle, it might disappear |
I can't believe that anyone who works on cars has never met "stale petrol". Any left in a vented tank for a year or more smells awful, because the lighter fractions, (which I believe are referred to as aromatics) which aid starting, but evaporate at a lower temperature than the main constituents will have left for the stratosphere. Petrol is a complex blended liquid with some parts which will remain behind for much longer, but are little better than paraffin in the engine. Often the reason the lawnmower is difficult to start after the Winter lay-up.
Mixing stale petrol in sensible quantities with fresh petrol to use it up will not harm an engine, but may make starting more difficult particularly in Winter. It solves the problem of disposing of it.
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Kelsham
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| Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject: unleaded fuel |
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Hi, I can report suffering valve seat reccession on my 1968 Morris 1800. It had done 30000 miles before showing symptoms.
As to fuel going off, the lighter fractions will evaporate with time. I had this a few years ago when I tried to start a 1938 BSA Scout, sidevalve engine.
Two of us tried everything we knew to start it without success. Finally I suggested we replace the fuel, We jury rigged a supply from a can and it started instantly, once warm it would start and run on the old fuel.
I was so astonished I insisted on repeating the experiment.
Next day same result.
regards Kels. |
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buzzy bee
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Stale fuel, a friend has had it very bad, take a long time, some of the cars have had fuel in them for many decades, and it doesn't burn well after that.
Not sure about the catalyst stopping it going stale though, unable to comment! hehe |
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Jim.Walker
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| Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: unleaded fuel |
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| Kelsham wrote: | | Hi, I can report suffering valve seat reccession on my 1968 Morris 1800. It had done 30000 miles before showing symptoms. |
I find that interesting Kelsham. Our fleet of 1800s on taxiwork, running entirely on (unleaded) LPG, did not show signs of visible seat regression for around 100,000 miles, only detected if we had some other reasons to remove the cylinder heads. Even then there was no detectable deterioration in performance or fuel economy. We never had seat inserts fitted, and the cars ran until scrapped (accidents) or disposed of at the end of their useful life for us. With usually many more miles on the clock on the clock.
From starting their shifts the engines rarely got chance to go cold. I wonder if that had any bearing on seat recession?
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Nic Jarman
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Petrol certainly does go stale. I drained the fuel from the MGB and forgot which can I had put it in. I put some fuel in the morris and it would not start. I realised what I had done and got some fuel from the Midget and it started OK. Does anyone else like the taste of unleaded?
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Riley Blue
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Or you could always buy leaded petrol:
http://www.leadedpetrol.co.uk/list.htm
I don't know how up to date the list is but the nearest filling station to me (a couple of miles outside Chesterfield) has it. |
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peter scott
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Unfortunately Scotlandshire isn't included in their distribution list.
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Roger-hatchy
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| Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the correction
Just goes to show, Never too old to learn
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Jim.Walker
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| riley541 wrote: | | I don't know how up to date the list is but the nearest filling station to me (a couple of miles outside Chesterfield) has it. |
Riley541, you have given your location away, which prompts this:-
Are you old enough to remember Bower's Taxis next to the Chesterfield (ex-Station) Hotel. If you are you will know where my experience of unleaded fuel comes from. Over many years all our taxis (but not the limousines) operated on unleaded LPG amassing a colossal mileage. We used over 1 ton of the stuff a week. Our on-site storage and filling facility had two one ton tanks.
I must comment that I would not waste the time or fuel driving to Chander Hill to fill my Triumph Vitesse engine or my two Triumph Speed Twin motorbikes although I only live at Hady. None of which have engines modified in any way and none of which show any indications of being lead starved. But then I did not start putting unleaded petrol in the Vitesse until it was introduced!
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