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V8 Nutter
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 602
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| There has been a few comments on this thread about keeping the car looking original. I have several friends who have bought radials that have the appearance of the original cross plies |
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lowdrag
Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Posts: 1600 Location: Le Mans
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| I forgot to mention this. Five years ago I bought a Mercedes that was five years old but had only done 18,000 miles so so the tyres were fine. A year later I went to see my usual tyre fitter with I assumed was a nail causing a slow puncture and he told me I should think about changing all four. Apparently that is considered normal these days but I would think that most of us (especially we with classics) would just look to see if there is plenty of tread left and carry on. I wonder what attitude the insurers would take if I had an accident? Approaching 80 now and my mileage has dropped considerably, having done but 30,000 in six years, a distance years back I would consider usual in a year. Hmm, do I need to ask whether I should be getting new ones again? |
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2713 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:28 am Post subject: |
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^ I believe that in Eire (or Northern Ireland, I forget which side of the border the chap who told me was talking about), the MOT test looks at the age of tyres, anything over seven years old will fail regardless of condition. I tend to look at the condition, the tyres on my Firenza are pretty old but have lots of tread and no cracks on the sidewalls. Of course, I can't see the condition of the steel belts inside the tyre construction. I will have to do something about them soon as it's on my mind. I've only been saying that for about five years now. _________________ 1976 Vauxhall HP Firenza, 1976 Vauxhall Sportshatch (x2), 1986 Audi coupe quattro, 2000 Audi TT |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7140 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:41 am Post subject: |
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I understand the main reason that tyres slowly deflate in the absense of a puncture, has more to do with the wheels than the tyres; aluminium rims in particular are prone to this.
Things may have improved over time. It must be over 50 years since I worked as a tyre fitter!  |
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Norseman
Joined: 09 Jan 2019 Posts: 114 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ray White wrote: | I understand the main reason that tyres slowly deflate in the absense of a puncture, has more to do with the wheels than the tyres; aluminium rims in particular are prone to this.
Things may have improved over time. It must be over 50 years since I worked as a tyre fitter!  |
I doubt much has changed, tyres are still made of rubber & contain air
I have a spare that, despite having a new tyre fitted to what appears to be an unused alloy wheel, insists on losing less than one pound of pressure a week. The tyre has been removed & re-sealed with a new valve but still loses the same amount of air. I gave up & carry a cordless compressor to occasionally add a few pounds. The same device inflates the tyres as & when required on a car that gets little use. _________________ 1987 classic Range Rover Vogue auto
1998 E39 523i SE auto sedan
A great many models have served me well since the 'sixties, all of them old & some even older than me. |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 2121 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:53 am Post subject: |
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With regards to leaky alloy wheels? I believe there is a substance which one paints over the inside of an alloy wheel to prevent this leakage occurring? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7140 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| alastairq wrote: | | With regards to leaky alloy wheels? I believe there is a substance which one paints over the inside of an alloy wheel to prevent this leakage occurring? |
I used to mount the wheel on the machine and set it to spin while I cleaned up the edge of the rim with some abrasive material.
Whether it did any good at all I never knew.  |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4242 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Whenever I have watched tyres being changed at our local tyre shop, they seem to spend quite a bit of time cleaning up the inside of wheel rims, presumably to promote a good seal. |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7140 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Did I ever mention that I worked briefly with (the late) Rick Parfitt. As a youngster, I had a Saturday job at a place near Woking but Rick was full time. He had just joined The Status Quo.
Then he left never to return.
I can't think why...  |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4242 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Ray White wrote: | Did I ever mention that I worked briefly with (the late) Rick Parfitt. As a youngster, I had a Saturday job at a place near Woking but Rick was full time. He had just joined The Status Quo.
Then he left never to return.
I can't think why...  | in a Sliding Doors moment, you could have be performing Andy Bown's role!  |
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Ray White

Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 7140 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | | Ray White wrote: | Did I ever mention that I worked briefly with (the late) Rick Parfitt. As a youngster, I had a Saturday job at a place near Woking but Rick was full time. He had just joined The Status Quo.
Then he left never to return.
I can't think why...  | in a Sliding Doors moment, you could have be performing Andy Bown's role!  |
Even worse than missing out then, I should have cultivated a real chance of getting into the music business. My Dad was great friends with song writer and composer Les Reed, who, having heard me play his piano wrote in my autograph book "never stop playing the piano!"
Some years later, I went on to turn down an offer of trainee mechanic by F1 boss Bruce McLaren when he came to our school on a recruitment drive. My Mother insisted I finish my exams and go to teacher training college.
That lasted just one year.  |
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bjacko
Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Posts: 527 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:20 am Post subject: Tyres |
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I bought my 1985 Rover in 1998 with 24,000KM on the clock and the Pirelli tyres had plenty of tread depth. I hardly used it and about 2005 I noticed that while it still had lots of tread depth there were cracks at the bottom of the tread grooves. So I changed them. it still has the virgin spare and has only 34000KM on the clock.
The rubber on the sidewalls is merely for appearance and does not have any structural use. _________________ 1938 Morris 8 Ser II Coupe Utility (Pickup)
1985 Rover SD1 VDP |
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Norseman
Joined: 09 Jan 2019 Posts: 114 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| alastairq wrote: | | With regards to leaky alloy wheels? I believe there is a substance which one paints over the inside of an alloy wheel to prevent this leakage occurring? |
That's true, when my leaky spare was stripped down & re-fitted (under the watchful eye of the service manager) this substance was applied.
Undamaged alloy, new tyre & valve .. what more can you do?
At least with the spare housed upright inside the car, adding a few pounds of pressure every couple of months is a clean job. _________________ 1987 classic Range Rover Vogue auto
1998 E39 523i SE auto sedan
A great many models have served me well since the 'sixties, all of them old & some even older than me. |
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norustplease

Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 825 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Had a slow puncture on the Volvo recently. Took it for repair to the local tyre place who said it was technically repairable, but they couldn't do it because they had a five year rule, ie: anything over five years old had to be scrapped if punctured.
The tyre had loads of tread. Is this real safety or a tyre sales pitch? Is there some kind of directive across the tyre sellers of the nation to this effect. I had previously understood that ten years was the point at which a tyre should be changed, regardless of the amount of remaining tread. _________________ 1953 Citroen Traction
1964 Volvo PV544
1957 Austin A55 Mk 1
Boring Tucson SUV |
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Norseman
Joined: 09 Jan 2019 Posts: 114 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| norustplease wrote: | Had a slow puncture on the Volvo recently. Took it for repair to the local tyre place who said it was technically repairable, but they couldn't do it because they had a five year rule, ie: anything over five years old had to be scrapped if punctured.
The tyre had loads of tread. Is this real safety or a tyre sales pitch? Is there some kind of directive across the tyre sellers of the nation to this effect. I had previously understood that ten years was the point at which a tyre should be changed, regardless of the amount of remaining tread. |
Sounds like a sales pitch to me, there are age limitations for tyres fitted to the front wheels of commercial & passenger carrying vehicles but not, as far as I'm aware, private cars.
Did/have you tried other repairers? _________________ 1987 classic Range Rover Vogue auto
1998 E39 523i SE auto sedan
A great many models have served me well since the 'sixties, all of them old & some even older than me. |
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