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D4B
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Location: Hampshire UK
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Hi Peter,
That is their website, it's just not one where you can buy online from,
so it's probably a case of making a trip to Liphook. They can be
contacted on 01428 751122.....
I have never dealt with them so this is just what I have found on the net. |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
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Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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| Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| Another possibility if you want phosphoric acid is milkstone remover - available from farm suppliers for maintaining milking machines. Used neat it's just about right for our purposes. |
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petermeachem
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Location: Chichester Sussex
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| Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| I saw a reference to that here. I'll see what I can find. Thanks |
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colwyn500
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Location: Nairn, Scotland
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| Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| Easy off Ebay. Worst thing is the postage. 1 or 5 litre at about 42%. It's used for hydroponics and for getting the Ph right in swimming pools. You hardly ever see rust removal on cars mentioned. |
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Bitumen Boy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| colwyn500 wrote: | | Easy off Ebay. Worst thing is the postage. 1 or 5 litre at about 42%. It's used for hydroponics and for getting the Ph right in swimming pools. You hardly ever see rust removal on cars mentioned. |
That's the nice thing about getting it from a farm suppliers - unless you're stuck in the middle of London, Birmingham, Manchester or the like, chances are there's one not too far away - call in on your way past and save ££'s on carriage. |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| Bitumen Boy wrote: | | colwyn500 wrote: | | Easy off Ebay. Worst thing is the postage. 1 or 5 litre at about 42%. It's used for hydroponics and for getting the Ph right in swimming pools. You hardly ever see rust removal on cars mentioned. |
That's the nice thing about getting it from a farm suppliers - unless you're stuck in the middle of London, Birmingham, Manchester or the like, chances are there's one not too far away - call in on your way past and save ££'s on carriage. |
Thanks for the tip Bitumen Boy, I just called in at a local farm supplier and 5L is less than £10 inc vat 
Cheers
Dave |
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012
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Location: Nairn, Scotland
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It's all right for you jammy so and so,s you win both ways. 
There isn't a lot of dairy farming round here so the Farm places don't stock it and being, effectively on the other side of the world as far as most carriers are concerned, delivery is astronomical.
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petermeachem
Joined: 23 Sep 2013
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Location: Chichester Sussex
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like merlinchemicals sell wholesale, they supply labels so you can brand it yourself.
I spent quite some time on the phone today trying to find a local supplier, farm suppliers websites are not the best. Delivery makes it all a bit hopeless, it doubles the price, apparently it is classed as hazardous.
The only really local company that did it was Goodrowes in Chichester, but they wanted £19.
Scats http://www.scatscountrystores.co.uk/companies/3/98/Billingshurst rang their suppliers, Mole Valley and are going to stock it for £11.40 for 5l. Supply arriving Thursday. Including petrol I still beat Goodrowes. |
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D4B
Joined: 28 Dec 2010
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Location: Hampshire UK
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Peter,
just what I need too (message sent)
thanks Steve |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
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Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | | Bitumen Boy wrote: | | colwyn500 wrote: | | Easy off Ebay. Worst thing is the postage. 1 or 5 litre at about 42%. It's used for hydroponics and for getting the Ph right in swimming pools. You hardly ever see rust removal on cars mentioned. |
That's the nice thing about getting it from a farm suppliers - unless you're stuck in the middle of London, Birmingham, Manchester or the like, chances are there's one not too far away - call in on your way past and save ££'s on carriage. |
Thanks for the tip Bitumen Boy, I just called in at a local farm supplier and 5L is less than £10 inc vat
Cheers
Dave |
That's ridiculously cheap - I paid more than that in Abergavenny 5 or 6 years ago! I thought Cheshire was meant to be expensive these days? |
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petermeachem
Joined: 23 Sep 2013
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Location: Chichester Sussex
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I collected my milkstone remover today and it works!
before, a bit of the luggage rack
after
I wiped it on neat with a jcloth, left it for 5 mins wiped it off and ran a wire brush over it. It's not easy to see in the picture but the the little pits that are left are black so presumably phosphate and so ok.
The container has all sorts of dire warnings which I ignored. May just be me, but it didn't attack my skin at all (unlike sugar soap which removed the entire top layer from my right hand, I looked like a hand model for a zombie film). Mind you I didn't spray it on from a spray bottle and didn't use a wire brush on a drill until I had wiped it off. And I was wearing glasses.
My problem is protecting the bit I've done from rust. This is going to take some time, I shall do a bit at a time. The only practical solution I can think of is to spray each section with a spray can primer as I derust it.
And then paint the whole thing asap.
Would that be ok? I don't mean the perfect solution, I mean ok. |
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D4B
Joined: 28 Dec 2010
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Location: Hampshire UK
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Yes that's what I would do Peter, and I think that others will recommend that the primer should be an
epoxy primer so that is doesn't absorb moisture like standard primers do if left without a topcoat.....
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petermeachem
Joined: 23 Sep 2013
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Location: Chichester Sussex
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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The epoxy primers are all 2 part ones aren't they? I am really only going to do a small area at a time. I'd be throwing away a lot of unused primer.
You can get spray cans but they go off after 4 days.
Can't really remember as it was so long ago, but I think I rubbed down the areas where rust had come through and sprayed some primer over the top. Now rust has come through but I didn't treat the rust in any way and it was 25 years ago. I can't believe this is so hard, there must be an easier and acceptable way |
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ukdave2002
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| petermeachem wrote: | The epoxy primers are all 2 part ones aren't they? I am really only going to do a small area at a time. I'd be throwing away a lot of unused primer.
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You only have to mix what you need, so there shouldn't be much waste, the hardener will go off after a few months, but can be bought separately.
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petermeachem
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