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Ray White
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 Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I think it depends on where the puncture is. If it is in the side wall then it must not be repaired. If it is in the tread then it should be O.K.
I would check a slow puncture ... it might only be a leaky valve.! |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:29 am Post subject: |
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I have plugged punctured (tubeless) tyres for years, carry a kit in the car, you normally don't need to remove the wheel. This process seems to be frowned on in the UK, however I have never had an issue.
Clearly a bit of common is required, if close to the side wall its a no, likewise 2 punctures close together. |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
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Location: East Yorkshire
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I agree with Dave. It's frowned upon in the UK simply because too many folk are really up themselves when it comes to things like repairs, etc.
We seem to have all been brought up on daily doses of bullshoyte?
Maybe just to justify the existence of so-called 'experts?'
Anyhow...I, too, plug punctures in my tubeless tyres on my daily Suzuki, using the cheapo ebay{China?] kits which have a couple of very useful tools, and some very sticky string-like bits to plug the holes with.
The issue with sidewalls extends to , I think, around an inch onto the tread area too. This is simply because, nearly all tyre repair places I have been to, use rubber mushrooms to repair punctures...and these won't seal if they have to curve to fit on part of the sidewall as well.
I guess they're too conscious of getting bad reviews if the puncture repair doesn't work first time?
There are plenty of Youtube videos showing tyre repairs, mostly in India or Pakistan, etc..where they really know how to carry out effective repairs to all sorts with the minimum of fuss and technology.
Guaranteed to turn the hair of all the RAC-anointed proponents white!
Gollygosh, how UNSAFE???
Yet, I reckon, with every 50 vehicles that pass us going the other way, at least 20% have some sort of tyre fault or another.....Never mind other sorts of roadworthiness?
Yet, if nobody crashes & burns, none of the safety elfs raise an eyebrow?
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Rusty
Joined: 10 Feb 2009
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Location: Bunbury, Western Australia
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | I have plugged punctured (tubeless) tyres for years, carry a kit in the car, you normally don't need to remove the wheel. This process seems to be frowned on in the UK, however I have never had an issue.
Clearly a bit of common is required, if close to the side wall its a no, likewise 2 punctures close together. |
Like a lot of things, this is political! I go bush over here (Aust) all the time with a few mates and one or two of us stake sidewalls most trips. I currently have two tyres on the ground with "plugs", one in the tread and one in the sidewall both have been in for two years and hold pressure well. I carry a tubeless tyre repair kit wherever we go, and it gets used "frequently". All the "hyp" about tubeless repairs is unwarranted. I have done over 50,000Ks on plugged tyres and only replaced them when the tread was worn out. Trying to get an owner to replace a tyre just because it has been "plugged" seems to me to be a sales excuse and if the authorities are "demanding it be done" they are just drumming up business for the tyre makers. On one of our "outback trips", one of my mates "gashed" the sidewall of his Landruisers tyre and he fitted "six" plugs side by side in the hole which got him home to Perth before he replaced it. About 3000 KLMs! |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
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Location: Derby
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Not that it is relevant but I remember our old Head Master saying how when he was a student at Oxford before the War, they would to wear their tyres down to the canvas....
How times have changed.  |
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Rusty
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| Ray White wrote: | Not that it is relevant but I remember our old Head Master saying how when he was a student at Oxford before the War, they would to wear their tyres down to the canvas....
How times have changed. |
There's lots of wartime tyre stories, my own family managed to squeak through, but other were less fortunate. One of my dad's more interesting stories was about the local bloke that was the tennis club captain whose Chev 4s tyres were worn out to the point he couldn't keep air in them, so he took the rims off and filled the tyre with "tennis balls" and kept marginally mobile for a while that way. I believe lining the inside of the tyre with whatever you could find to stop the tube being worn through was common, old power transmission belting being one popular choice.
Something tells me the inspecting authorities would frown on this sort of thing. |
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Norseman
Joined: 09 Jan 2019
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Location: Essex UK
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:41 am Post subject: vintage tyres |
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Like most of us I am constantly irritated by today's level of 'elf & safety but when it comes to tyres a degree of acceptance is necessary.
I'm all in favour of DIY & get-you home temporary repairs & admire the level of ingenuity shown by drivers, but it has to be realised there's a world of difference between a bush-wacker's emergency repair or driving conditions decades ago to belting down a motorway at 80mph which is a far more likely scenario here in the UK & the regulations are there to allow for that.
Having said that I fail to understand the mind-set of regulators that seek to restrict tyre usage based on age whilst still happy to legalise a tread depth of only 1.6mm 
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
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| Quote: | | Having said that I fail to understand the mind-set of regulators that seek to restrict tyre usage based on age whilst still happy to legalise a tread depth of only 1.6mm |
I suppose it's necessary to allow some new tyres not to become illegal inside three weeks?
Don't forget the ''75%'' of the width of the tyre thing either?
The whole thing surrounding tyres seems to be aimed at getting us to spend, spend, spend, more & more on our personal transport?
I smile when parked next to a 'new' Range Rover, when I observe that , for the cost of one of his tyres, I managed to purchase, and repair as necessary, my entire daily-driver for up to 7 years [as at the moment]...
All it takes is one ill-placed panel screw, and my point is made.
Two panel screws, 6 months apart, and I'm quids-in!
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Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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