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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The yellow car is a Hudson and the T Ford and Darracq are pretty obvious...but the one with a round radiator is rather more unusual. It is a 1911 Pilain 16/20. (Actually a type 4 special).

https://treasuredcars.com/classic_cars_for_sale/details/1911-pilain-type-4-special-classic-cars-for-sale_3417
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
It looks like it could be a VCC of GB outing. They do at least use their old cars!


Turns out it was the Cheshire Cheese Rally:

https://thenantwichnews.co.uk/2025/10/12/veteran-cars-shine-at-cheshire-cheese-rally-in-wybunbury/

Edited by AI to remove telephone wires and poles:



It hasn't quite got rid of all the poles, and I forgot to ask it to remove TV aerials.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think telegraph poles would have been around back then. These photos show how it was done in about 1910.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks like a very tall pole.

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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
That looks like a very tall pole.

Peter


You have to allow for a considerable amount under ground. Even so, I am sure the length of telegraph poles was reduced over time; possibly for cost reasons or perhaps because timber was in short supply after WW1. ?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No pun intended of course, Ray?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
No pun intended of course, Ray?


I hadn't thought of that! We only have overhead supply in our lane.

Actually, I have had some experience with the "open reach" guys who were simply brilliant in re routing the supply and put up a couple of extra telegraph poles when my "difficult" neighbour didn't wires to my house going over his garden.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
my "difficult" neighbour


Had to laugh when reading this. Don't we all have at least one "difficult" neighbour. I lost a parking place in the street because of one. But that is about it, I guess I am lucky with my next door neighbours..
Worse off are my neighbours across the street. They loved the house but the war with their adjacent neighbour became so big that they gave up and sold their house (at a loss, unheard of in these times) and will be moving to a free standing house.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The telegraph pole which was outside my neighbour's house had rotted way at ground level so rather than come and discuss it with me, he thought it would be a good idea to see if he could PUSH IT OVER. Shocked

The problem was resolved by having three new poles (two on the other side of the road) so that the supply by-passed the neighbour. It has also improved out frontage as the over head power line was also done at the same time. Very Happy

It must have cost a lot but I incurred no charge. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he had pushed it over, what did he think would happen to whatever was going through the wires? And of course pushing it one way could cause the bottom of the pole to kick back the other way, seen that happen on a few tree felling videos.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
If he had pushed it over, what did he think would happen to whatever was going through the wires? And of course pushing it one way could cause the bottom of the pole to kick back the other way, seen that happen on a few tree felling videos.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Penman wrote:
And of course pushing it one way could cause the bottom of the pole to kick back the other way, seen that happen on a few tree felling videos.


Indeed, and if that end of the tree (or pole) catches the person under the chin then it's broken neck time and they'll most likely be dead (or permanently paralysed) before they (and the pole/tree) hit the ground. That's just one of the reasons why there is a long and intensive training course and rigorous test procedure to pass to obtain a chainsaw operator's competence certificate.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:33 am    Post subject: Planting Poles Reply with quote

Those guys in the picture watching are braver than me, I wouldn't be within 20 feet of the pole. Glad it didn't fall on the horse! Can't see the next ladder to push it up further unless the re-use one already propping it up?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am left wondering how far they had to transport those long poles? Railways and canals aside, roads in Edwardian England consisted of a network of country lanes with high hedges that usually followed field boundaries.

Admittedly, practically every village had a wood yard but even so it could well have been a logistical nightmare.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While out and about I saw a smart black Moggy Minor pootling along, also a Mk1 Capri, and a '66 Mustang.

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