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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Security Reply with quote

In mind of the recent A35 thread, I've been toying with security post(s) to go in front of the motor house Wink. Some seem to retract downwards out of sight, while others fold down flat to the ground (almost). Does anyone here have any experiences of either, or recommendations either way?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: security posts Reply with quote

Yes, I've some information and hints/opinions.

Planting the tube for the retracting variety can be less than simple...
If the ground / substrate will stand the anchor bolts I would tend to go for the fold down type. There is also less to go wrong!

What I'm not sure about is the planning law aapects, I've not had any experience with that side of things. I'ld have to do some searching for details of current suppliers, as my info is two or three years old.

Let me know if I can help further?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The retractable have got to more secure as they go deeper but they are a lot more trouble to fit as a deep hole has to be dug and then ground made good.

Some stand up/fold down types can easlit be nudged down with a right vehicle uprooting the ground or just breaking off the bolts/mounting plate. I would not trust that type
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used the fold down ones in England. They are simpler to maintain in the winter when there is snow and ice.

The one's I had, did have a section that dropped 3ft into the ground and were set in concrete.

Hire a Post Hole Borer, (hand or powered) and providing you are not on solid rock, a 3ft hole can be bored in 10mins by hand or 30 secs by machine.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a security post some years ago and I looked at many types. I choose one with the lock at the top for several reasons. Firstly as I am getting older, I did not fancy bending over or getting on my knees to undo a cold, wet or frozen padlock. Secondly, weather related again...snow. The ground section was set to a depth of around a foot and had four steel rods forming a cross, so once set in concrete it would take some removing. I have had it for ten years or more and would recommend that type.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the back of my shop there are a number of fold down posts to keep parking spaces free outside various offices.Most of them last a few weeks before getting broken either by cars or even in a few cases yobs kicking and hitting them.
Sadly people see them being broken and yet do nothing to stop it and I'd guess that might happen if the post was being damaged to steal a car.
I think the law putting away convicted car thieves away for a good few years rather than the dafty ASBOs and community service orders would probably achieve more than any amount of security devices.Not as much as a dose of buck shot up the backside or a few taps round the head with a nice lump of hickory maybe,but it would help.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My A35 was inside a garage with one of those posts in front of the garage door and an iron grid over the back door with a hefty padlock on. It took the owner ages to find the keys as he hadn't even seen the car since he parked it up in 1987. The post in front of the door had rusted up and had to be removed by Land Rover Discovery and chain Smile
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