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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: Question about trade plates post-war |
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The Dodge had an old trade plate hanging off the back when I got it, as the former owner only ever ran it on trade plate(s) after the war.
Would it have been normal to also have one on the front of a truck operated in this way, or was one plate on the rear sufficient to keep the boys in blue happy? I'd like to re-instate the original rear plate sometime, and I'm curious as to whether it would have had one up front also.
thanks, R
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Trade plates are like any other plate and should be displayed front and rear, the front one also having the tax info.
As an ex trade plater I can say it was not un-common to display only rearwards though this was more through laziness than anything else.
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Police will take a dim view if they are displayed whilst the vehicle is on the public highways 
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They will give you the "It confuses our ANPR camera" story, best keep it covered when on the roads
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Jim.Walker
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There used to be two types of Trade Plate.
The ones with red letters on a white ground were "Limited Trade Plates" only Legally useable for limited use by the owner to deliver/collect vehicles etc. and NOT on Sundays. The front plate carried a triangular licence. I believe a Log of all usage had to be kept.
General trade plates are what I believe you have and allowed much more unrestricted use. Including moving heavy plant etc. between sites. They had a rectangular licence. The licence was much more expensive.
Not sure when the change was made, but I believe it was between 1966 and 1972 when I was out of "the trade" for a while.
I think there is only one version available nowadays.
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Well, if I've read the plate correctly and it is 4 DE, then accordingly, if you look here:-
http://www.numberplates.com/issued.aspx
it was sold at a DVLA auction on 28/10/99!
Edit: on looking again, i reckon I'm wrong and part of the plate is obscured. |
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| Jim.Walker wrote: | There used to be two types of Trade Plate.
The ones with red letters on a white ground were "Limited Trade Plates" only Legally useable for limited use by the owner to deliver/collect vehicles etc. and NOT on Sundays. The front plate carried a triangular licence. I believe a Log of all usage had to be kept.
General trade plates are what I believe you have and allowed much more unrestricted use. Including moving heavy plant etc. between sites. They had a rectangular licence. The licence was much more expensive.
Not sure when the change was made, but I believe it was between 1966 and 1972 when I was out of "the trade" for a while.
I think there is only one version available nowadays.
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Absolutely, there used to be the following rules:
"Red-on-white, stop on sight"
"White-on-red, go straight ahead"
The change to 100% red-on-white was in 1974 when the DVLA was born.
Red-on-white before 1974 were used as Jim says, for specified journeys - delivering cars for example. For each journey a docket authorising the trip should have been obtained by the driver. A driver using red-on-white was liable to be stopped by the police to validate the use.
White-on-red were more expensive and commonplace in the retail motor trade who had varying needs to take unlicenced vehicles on the road. It was the norm to use them on breakdown trucks. After around 1967 trade plates could/should only be used on a breakdown truck if the truck was equipped with a winch or dolly device to left at least 2 wheels of the broken down vehicle off the deck.
Strange thing about trade plates is that the design of the physical plate has remained largely unchanged and on modern cars there is nothing usually to hang them on. |
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If push came to shove I could just cover it while out on the highways and byways.
