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ogofmole
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: Lorry ID and other info requested |
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Hi All, my name is Barry and I would possibly like some help from your experience with these older vehicles as my family is doing a lot of family research, but we would like a bit of help with some vintage lorry's. I did post one of these images onto your Facebook page where Rick 99.9% identified the lorry's as Ford modelAA.
The first image was taken in 'Hynams Lane, Hynams (We are not sure where this is) in May 1933. We know that the vehicles were registered in Worcestershire, and that One lorry is named Desert Cloud and the other Flying Dutch. Do you know if this was normal to give lorry's like this names.
We know that the lorry's were registered in Worcestershire from the registrations (I don't know if any more information can be found from these).,
The other 2 images would had been taken around Kingswinford where they had a Haulage company, would the lorry's in the other two images be the same as the ones in image 1.
Is it possible to work out, what vehicles they are from these photos, and if so, do you think they were quite new in 1933 or possibly older. Also has anyone heard of a place known as 'Hynams'.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4873 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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ogofmole
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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That could be possible as Gloucester would had been within reasonable travelling distance of Kingswinford. I also had a suggestion of a place in Cumbrian on your Facebook page. Although the writing on the back of this photo clearly says 'Hynams', but maybe the person writing this was like me with spelling .  |
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V8 Nutter
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 603
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| The Model A car was made from 1928 until it was superseded by the Model B in early 1932. I would guess the AA truck would have been much the same |
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ogofmole
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| V8 Nutter wrote: | | The Model A car was made from 1928 until it was superseded by the Model B in early 1932. I would guess the AA truck would have been much the same |
Well that fits into the date wrote on the back of the photo 'May 1933', and those tyres look as if they are not new. |
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roverdriver

Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 1210 Location: 100 miles from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Both are definitely AA's. Both are 1930/31 models. The differences in the front body shape between 28/29 and 30/31 are quite marked. If the photo was taken in1933, then the trucks have had quite a lot of use since new, the wear on the tyres is evidence of that.
The 1930/31 had a higher radiator than the earlier version. That also meant that the petrol tank (cowl) shape was altered to line up with the radiator. The radiator shell was made from Stainless Steel, as were the headlamps. Commercial vehicles were often turned out with paint over the SS. There is also a SS bead over the foremost part of the cowl, not seen on the earlier vehicles, and the petrol cap is SS and a bayonet-type action as opposed to a brass screw-on cap earlier. _________________ Dane- roverdriver but not a Viking. |
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ogofmole
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| roverdriver wrote: | Both are definitely AA's. Both are 1930/31 models. The differences in the front body shape between 28/29 and 30/31 are quite marked. If the photo was taken in1933, then the trucks have had quite a lot of use since new, the wear on the tyres is evidence of that.
The 1930/31 had a higher radiator than the earlier version. That also meant that the petrol tank (cowl) shape was altered to line up with the radiator. The radiator shell was made from Stainless Steel, as were the headlamps. Commercial vehicles were often turned out with paint over the SS. There is also a SS bead over the foremost part of the cowl, not seen on the earlier vehicles, and the petrol cap is SS and a bayonet-type action as opposed to a brass screw-on cap earlier. |
Thank you roverdriver for your in-depth reply. Do you know if it would had been common to give these lorry's names. As they both had Desert Cloud and Flying Dutch on the hood above the windscreen. |
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BigJohn
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 954 Location: Wem, Shropshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of lorries have names, just look at Eddie Stobarts fleet, they even have a spotters club!
I think once transport moved on to the road from the canals and horse drawn carts, the habit of naming boats and horses moved onto trucks. |
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Inglewood

Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 183 Location: Stone, Staffordshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Amy Johnson flew a D.H.80A Puss Moth G-ACAB named Desert Cloud (England-South Africa 1932)
I wonder if this was the influence behind the name appearing on one of the trucks? |
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ogofmole
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Inglewood wrote: | Amy Johnson flew a D.H.80A Puss Moth G-ACAB named Desert Cloud (England-South Africa 1932)
I wonder if this was the influence behind the name appearing on one of the trucks? |
We did wonder if there might had been a connection with Amy Johnson. As in Photo 1, they both seem to be proud standing alongside these vehicles. We wondered if they may had just purchased them secondhand to add to their fleet. |
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