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dclf1947 · Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:32 am Post subject: Projects for Buzzy Bee!!!!

These are an interesting find. Like the lorry as well.

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/76769-Dredging-engine-from-Welford-on-AvonDecember-2012

Dave

Rick · Site Admin Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22801 Location: UK

Very neat, I'll have the truck Smile

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buzzy bee · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire

I will have them both, who do I contact... lol

D4B · Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK

Here's another one for you Buzzy Bee

http://buyvintage1.wordpress.com/page-41-1958-busy-bee/

Steve

buzzy bee · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire

I am sure your all trying to ruin me... lol
Laughing

I think the latter suggestion might be more doable though! Wink

Ploughing engines, especially a pair are devils to hide!

roverdriver · Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:21 am Post subject:

I had never thought of the possible 'conversion' of a steamer to i.c engine. Interestingly, I have just recently come across this one. Unfortunately I did not record where I found the photo, somewhere in the Stilltime collection.

Is it possible that they are actually still steamers and that the 'radiator' is a condenser?

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buzzy bee · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire

Hi

Quite a Few engines were converted to Diesel later in their life, int he sort of change over age, rollers too. In fact a friend has just completed a restoration of a Roller, but as most people restore them as steam, he keep the conversion and restored it as a diesel, it has been in the magazines this year. It is a Grand Job.

The ones pictured look like conversions to Diesel, got engines like the old early single cylinder oil engines by the looks.

Cheers

Dave

emmerson · Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 1268 Location: South East Wales

Digging deep into the memory banks, there was a company near Evesham, I think called Bomford & Eversheds, who converted lots of their engines to diesel, using MAN motors. There were still a few in their yard about thirty years ago.Anyone else remember them?

emmerson · Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 1268 Location: South East Wales

Fozzie, I didn't realise it was you put up the OP! How are you?
Do you remember the Bomford's engines? I went there once, I think with Dick Dorrell.

dclf1947 · Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:14 pm Post subject:

Peter_L · Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:20 pm Post subject:

Perhaps incorrectly described as "farmers". The work here was to clear trees and brush from canals. Other contemporary photos show the wood being burnt and presumably ploughed back into the land.

http://www.search.windowsonwarwickshire.org.uk/engine/resource/default.asp?resource=6390

The large network of canals in the area made this type of work a continuous process and it is likely that the diesel conversion was more than welcome.

emmerson · Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 1268 Location: South East Wales

This thread brings to mind a pair of Fowlers (Windsor & Sandringham?), belonging (then) to a man called James Lowther.
The channels around the Welsh coast at Nash and Redwick were badly silted up in about 1980, and various modern machines were tried to clear the mud. All failed, and I believe a Hymac excavator was actually lost in the sea.
Cue James Lowther. He turned up with this pair of dirty decrepit old steamers, and anounced that he could do the job. At low tide Windsor was steamed out to a sandbank off shore, and Sandringham was stationed on the seawall. A home-made dredging bucket was slung between the engines, where the plough would have been, both engines steamed, and hey presto, the job was a doddle. As the tide rose, when the modern kit had to brought ashore, Windsor's fire was damped down, and she was left on the sandbank until next low tide. She was then fired up and work began again. If the modern diesels had been left in the tide, of course, they'd have been wrecked, but a qick wipe over, re-grease, and the steamers were ready to go again!
I actually interviewed Mr Lowther for a piece in our vintage club magazine, and showed him some photos I'd taken of the engine with water over her hind wheels, and his comment was "poor old girl, but she keeps making money".
Sadly I don't have a copy of the article I wrote.
Anyone know what happened to Windsor & Sandringham?
Are they still extant?
They deserved to be restored and cherished after that job.

Peter_L · Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject:

Both "Windsor" and "Sandringham" appear to be owned by the Claude-Jessett Trust. I found several references to "Sandringham" at shows, so chances are they are alive and if not 100% fit, at least convalescing.

Penman · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4873 Location: Swindon, Wilts.

Hi
I can remember seeing ploughing engines being used to dredge out a pond in a TV programme years ago, it may have been the southern TVs Out of Town with Jack Hargreaves.

Been trying to find it on youtube unsuccessfully but I did find this, shame Christmas has just gone.
http://www.outoftown-dvd.co.uk/the-lost-episodes/

There are Steam engines in Vol 3.
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Peter_L · Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:00 pm Post subject:

Dredging with ploughing engines. Image

http://www.search.windowsonwarwickshire.org.uk/engine/resource/default.asp?resource=1699