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47Jag
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bothwell, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: Old Airlines |
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For those of you who like airliner/transport ac, here is probably the most beautiful airliner
(if not airplane itself?) to ever take to the air? .
Check out how the passengers dressed in "the good old days" and also the cargo pod used on the Eastern Airlines Connie.
http://tripletails.weebly.com/photo-gallery.html
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kevin2306
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1359 Location: nr Llangollen, north wales
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:23 am Post subject: |
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i would dearly love to go flying in a some of these classic airliners, they are superb.
i do go to cosford etc most years for a mooch but always feel its a shame we only get to look at the outside of the planes, its the interior that i find more fascinating.
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Trivia:
I think I read somewhere that the Constellation was the fastest propeller airliner.
When first saw the film "Alien" I thought the designer of the alien spaceship's tail surfaces must have modeled his on the Connie, although upside down.
Peter. _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon
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Riley Blue
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1750 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:47 am Post subject: |
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According to Google
Bristol Britannia top speed: 639 km/h
Lockheed Constellation top speed: 607 km/h |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe it was the fastest piston engined airliner?
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4756 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Can the triple tail fanciers ID this one?
I have removed registration and type ID from the photo.
_________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Could it be this one?
_________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4756 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Well done, surprising though how few realise that the later DC aircraft should really have 1 added to their model designation.
Of course there was only one of these and it finally went to Japan, and reverse engineered into aspects of the Nakajima G5N _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
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Riley Blue
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1750 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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peter scott wrote: | Maybe it was the fastest piston engined airliner?
Peter |
We're both wrong! Douglas DC7 top speed 653 km/h. |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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OK! I give in. Poor old good for nothing Constellation.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
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Roger-hatchy
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 2135 Location: Tiptree, Essex
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Super Conni with escort
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Roger-hatchy
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 2135 Location: Tiptree, Essex
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Two Icons of travel
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Norfolkjohn
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 88 Location: North Norfolk
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Concerning the matter of speed, in practical terms, there was no significant difference between any of the long range airliners in the late 1940's / early 1950's. The Super Constellation, DC7 and Boeing 337 (the last of the successful piston engine long range airliners) all had a cruising speed of about 355 mph.
The Britannia was also around this speed but rather more quiet and comfortable. A couple of the big Turbo-props, the Lockheed Electra and Russian Ilyushin IL18, pushed cruising speeds above 400 mph and the Vickers Vanguard made it up to 425mph.
However it terms of propeller driven airliners there is one that, for a brief period of time before everyone went over to pure jet propulsion, blew the socks off everything else. The Russian Tupolev TU-114. Basically a passenger version of a long range bomber with highly swept back wings and powered by 4 massive Kuznetsov NK-12MV turboprops driving contra-rotating propellers it cruised at nearly 480 mph (770 Km/hr). This was and still is by far and away the fastest propeller driven aircraft to have ever been genuinely operated commercially. _________________ One thorn of experience is worth a whole wilderness of warning |
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Riley Blue
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1750 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for insight John. In the late 50s I lived at Lyneham and 'Whispering Giants' flew over daily. I always thought they were fast and sleek; looks like the Ruskies were way ahead of them. |
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52classic
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 493 Location: Cardiff.
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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There have been some amazing types associated with the romantic days of airliner travel.
Handley Page Hannibal, De Haviland Albatross, Avro York, Airspeed Ambassador and of course the Britannia..... All that before anyone mentions Comet!
Airbus is undoubtedly efficient but when was the last time you even looked at your 'mount' before a holiday flight?
I remember being taken, as a school holiday treat, to Heathrow. Must have been '63 or 4. Never forget listing the aircraft types and the airlines for just 1 day. |
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