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[Rick]

Saw this posted elsewhere, copied here:

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Jaguar Mk2 STOLEN.

My car was stolen from outside my house in the Petersfield area of Hampshire on the morning of 27th January. It is an unrestored, low mileage, three owner vehicle... not perfect but with a 'lived in look'... having said that it had recently had £5k + spent on an engine rebuild.

Jaguar Mk 2 3.8 1960 Reg. 2802 MV

British Racing Green BRG wire wheels
Chassis No. 200801 Engine No. LA3756 8
Green leather seats - drivers seat has a six inch rip. There are new green seat belts to front and rear.
Mileage approx. 48,500 The car was stolen with no keys, so I assume it will need new locks all round.
If you see the car or become aware of a suspicious vehicle that fits the above description please contact me or Hampshire police (PC Gott Tel. 01962 871350).

Many thanks Jon Curry
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Almost certain that's been cubed.

[Ellis]

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[Rick]

Or already on a ship to distant lands?

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[Ellis]

[lowdrag]

On another site, there is a thread about ringing and the identities that turn up on Ebay. Now I'll come straight out and admit that I bought an identity with certain parts of the original car and used it, because when creating a car that is 60 years old you don't want it to be subject to the IVA exam. It isn't specified anywhere just how much of the original you need so would a rear axle, engine and gearbox do? No doubt you'll each have your own opinion on the matter. Proteus build a C-type, but they are classed as "small car manufacturers" and so every car has to pass the IVA, so they have fuel injection instead of carburettors, a catalyst and a rearranged dashboard that is more accident friendly. It may be sold as a C-type, but would you call it one, especially with its RX8 rear axle and suspension?

So my car is technically from the 1950's. I did it only to recreate the car correct in every detail, which otherwise it couldn't have been. Every Lynx built was registered in exactly the same way, by taking a wreck and rebuilding it as a C or D-type. There are other manufacturers who are still doing the same thing and you'll possibly have noted that whereas you could buy an identity on Ebay several years back for a reasonably cheap price, they are now fetching thousands; indeed, I have heard talk bandied about that for some rarer cars as high as £10,000, and that just for the old buff log book.

I have also seen many a car cloned in my time, when the old car became too rusty to pass an MOT and so the owner bought another of the same age and simply transferred the chassis plate. Mostly to save the number plate. In fact, one person has done it to the same car several times. It used to be just a part of life but times change and with car values being so high it is now deemed more as a serious crime.

I feel very sad for the owner and hope the car comes to light, but I can't imagine it being weighed in for scrap but either cloned or more likely in a container on its way to the east. I certainly can't see that car ever being easily discovered even if it remains in the country because as sure as chicken lay eggs it will have a lovely new "old" chassis plate. Just leave it in tea for a while, then add a bit of strawberry jam, and in no time you have a 50 year old chassis plate.

[RichP]

Hi, I saw this forum and just wanted to post a reply regarding the Mk2 Jag 2802 MV, which was stolen. Just to let you know that I've ended up with the car. I bought the car, which was under different number plates (it had been twinned) and put it in to a couple of garages for further restoration work. The second garage it went in to (Malcolm Collinson Jaguar) found out that it was a stolen car and we ended up reporting it to the police. The police took it away and I had to negotiate direct with the insurance company to buy the car back. I managed to speak with a board member of the insurance company, who I have to say was brilliant and fair, and I negotiated an amount to buy the car back. The car is now almost completed, driving and looking stunning and hasn't disappeared overseas. The thieves/gang who twinned the car, did a good job of putting it onto a new number plate - I really didn't have a clue what I was buying. I didn't pay huge amounts for the car, but I thought this reflected the fact that it had little history, which is not unusual for some old cars. Anyway, just thought that I would let you know! Richard, Hampshire

[Rick]

Very interesting, welcome to the forum, any photos to hand?

RJ
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[Rich5ltr]

Very interested to know how this works for the original owner? You clearly are the legal owner of the car because you say you negotiated with the insurer so has the original owner been paid off?

[baconsdozen]

I wonder how many stolen classics are ever recovered,very few I'd guess.
A sad reflection on todays society.
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