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aps
Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Posts: 37 Location: aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:49 pm Post subject: hobby weld gas |
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has anybody herd of hobby weld gas ,they contacted me last week saying they supplied welding and cutting gas ,you dont need to be in a contract on bottles ,theres a one off payment on bottle then its just refilled or exchanged for a full when needed ,a rep is coming to see me next week but all sounds good and far cheaper than disposable bottles ,also cheaper than my usual supplier ,wayne |
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D4B

Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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These people I imagine?
http://www.hobbyweld.co.uk/
I have had no experience of them, anyone else? |
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D4B

Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2710 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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I switched from BOC to a local rent-free supplier, then last year swapped to a much more local one which turned out to be a Hobbyweld outlet. I'm on my second bottle now (Argoshield Light equivalent) and it's been fine.
It's quite a small bottle, worth taking into account if you're some way from the depot as it will need more frequent refills. I'd downsized my BOC bottle to cut the rent down, so I'm already used to the smaller size.
So thumbs up from me. |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4240 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I used to have oxygen and acetylene contracts with BOC, cost a fortune for a DIY'er, so I moved to hobbyweld , where you move to a capex rather than revenue structured contract, far cheaper for a low volume user like me.
Dave |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 4174 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:44 am Post subject: |
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I have always used a gasless Mig when restoring and have done for 15-20 years now. I work in a large factory and this week brought in some 'homework' to weld up. They have Gas Migs in here, big ones, but I have to say the control, feed and all round weld quality was so much better than the small Gasless Mig.
The reason I brought work in was that my Mig is constantly having feed problems with the wire bunching and creasing no matter how many times it is stripped and corrected.
I am now very keen on going gasless. |
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whiteshadow

Joined: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 78
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:10 pm Post subject: Hobbyweld |
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Had a contract with BOC for argoshield light. I was taking me years to get through a bottle, but it was still costing me £80ish / year without refilling (and going up every year!)..........got a hobby weld cylinder....no brainer....keep as long as you need and only pay to refill |
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whiteshadow

Joined: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 78
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:10 pm Post subject: Hobbyweld |
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Had a contract with BOC for argoshield light. I was taking me years to get through a bottle, but it was still costing me £80ish / year without refilling (and going up every year!)..........got a hobby weld cylinder....no brainer....keep as long as you need and only pay to refill |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4240 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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I have stopped using mig for most bodywork welding, my preference being butt welds using oxy acetylene, with minimal ( if any) use of filler rod.
It's so much easier to planish; and get a good finish than attempting the same with the rock hard join a mig leaves, that also gets brittle as it's worked.
Dave |
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2710 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to, but I've found it hard enough to get reasonably competent (I won't say "to master") MIG welding, and I believe oxy-acetylene is more difficult. I used to be envious of the TIG welding in 'American Hotrod' which looked very easy and very clean, but then they were always welding new metal and I hear the heat spreads much more than it does with MIG. |
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Old Wrench

Joined: 23 Dec 2013 Posts: 226 Location: Essex and France
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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MikeEdwards wrote: | I'd like to, but I've found it hard enough to get reasonably competent (I won't say "to master") MIG welding, and I believe oxy-acetylene is more difficult. I used to be envious of the TIG welding in 'American Hotrod' which looked very easy and very clean, but then they were always welding new metal and I hear the heat spreads much more than it does with MIG. |
Oxy-Acetylene welding and brazing is easy enough, Mike. As with all such techniques it is a matter of practice.
From my own perspective (enjoying -rusty! - skills in MIG, Shielded Arc, Resistance Spot and Gas), I would actually say Oxy-Acetylene is much easier than MIG, when dealing with older corroded metals.
Brazing has always been my preferred method for demanding panel work, in particular when faced with butted seams, such as wings joining scuttles, rear quarters etc.
In my hay days I also tackled cold arc repairs of cast iron blocks and heads: and ally castings using gas. As well as sheet ally.
TIG has made vast improvements in repairing castings. |
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