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aps



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:49 pm    Post subject: hobby weld gas Reply with quote

has anybody herd of hobby weld gas ,they contacted me last week saying they supplied welding and cutting gas ,you dont need to be in a contract on bottles ,theres a one off payment on bottle then its just refilled or exchanged for a full when needed ,a rep is coming to see me next week but all sounds good and far cheaper than disposable bottles ,also cheaper than my usual supplier ,wayne
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D4B



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These people I imagine?

http://www.hobbyweld.co.uk/

I have had no experience of them, anyone else?
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D4B



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just Kampers are one of their agents:

http://www.justkampers.com/search/result/?q=welding
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I switched from BOC to a local rent-free supplier, then last year swapped to a much more local one which turned out to be a Hobbyweld outlet. I'm on my second bottle now (Argoshield Light equivalent) and it's been fine.

It's quite a small bottle, worth taking into account if you're some way from the depot as it will need more frequent refills. I'd downsized my BOC bottle to cut the rent down, so I'm already used to the smaller size.

So thumbs up from me.
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have oxygen and acetylene contracts with BOC, cost a fortune for a DIY'er, so I moved to hobbyweld , where you move to a capex rather than revenue structured contract, far cheaper for a low volume user like me.

Dave
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Rootes75



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always used a gasless Mig when restoring and have done for 15-20 years now. I work in a large factory and this week brought in some 'homework' to weld up. They have Gas Migs in here, big ones, but I have to say the control, feed and all round weld quality was so much better than the small Gasless Mig.

The reason I brought work in was that my Mig is constantly having feed problems with the wire bunching and creasing no matter how many times it is stripped and corrected.

I am now very keen on going gasless.
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whiteshadow



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject: Hobbyweld Reply with quote

Had a contract with BOC for argoshield light. I was taking me years to get through a bottle, but it was still costing me £80ish / year without refilling (and going up every year!)..........got a hobby weld cylinder....no brainer....keep as long as you need and only pay to refill
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject: Hobbyweld Reply with quote

Had a contract with BOC for argoshield light. I was taking me years to get through a bottle, but it was still costing me £80ish / year without refilling (and going up every year!)..........got a hobby weld cylinder....no brainer....keep as long as you need and only pay to refill
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have stopped using mig for most bodywork welding, my preference being butt welds using oxy acetylene, with minimal ( if any) use of filler rod.
It's so much easier to planish; and get a good finish than attempting the same with the rock hard join a mig leaves, that also gets brittle as it's worked.

Dave
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to, but I've found it hard enough to get reasonably competent (I won't say "to master") MIG welding, and I believe oxy-acetylene is more difficult. I used to be envious of the TIG welding in 'American Hotrod' which looked very easy and very clean, but then they were always welding new metal and I hear the heat spreads much more than it does with MIG.
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Old Wrench



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeEdwards wrote:
I'd like to, but I've found it hard enough to get reasonably competent (I won't say "to master") MIG welding, and I believe oxy-acetylene is more difficult. I used to be envious of the TIG welding in 'American Hotrod' which looked very easy and very clean, but then they were always welding new metal and I hear the heat spreads much more than it does with MIG.


Oxy-Acetylene welding and brazing is easy enough, Mike. As with all such techniques it is a matter of practice.

From my own perspective (enjoying -rusty! - skills in MIG, Shielded Arc, Resistance Spot and Gas), I would actually say Oxy-Acetylene is much easier than MIG, when dealing with older corroded metals.

Brazing has always been my preferred method for demanding panel work, in particular when faced with butted seams, such as wings joining scuttles, rear quarters etc.

In my hay days I also tackled cold arc repairs of cast iron blocks and heads: and ally castings using gas. As well as sheet ally.

TIG has made vast improvements in repairing castings.
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