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Toro



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:22 pm    Post subject: Importation Reply with quote

Hello.

Anybody know how difficult is to import a vehicle?

Car and/or motorcycle?


Thank you.

Regards.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Daniel,

Are you asking about importing into Brazil, or into the UK?

I have no idea about importing into other countries, but it is fairly straightforward importing into the UK, although there are different procedures depending on the age of the vehicle and the country from which you are exporting.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikeC wrote:
Hi Daniel,

Are you asking about importing into Brazil, or into the UK?



Thank you Mike, and sorry: importing to the UK from Brazil.

I probably will move to England and I will be very happy if I can bring my BSA to her "home" and maybe one of the cars.
But if it is too hard, then I'll offer everything to sale.
Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel,

It is not difficult at all; first of all you must notify Customs & Excise of the import, and pay any taxes due, and then registration with DVLA is - or at least should be - straightforward.

Was the BSA imported into Brazil when new, or was it originally a UK-registered car imported at a later date? If the latter, and you have documentation to prove its identity, then there should be no duty to pay and you may even be able to get the original registration number re-issued.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The recently-introduced system for imports is called NOVA, it'd be worth researching that. Without NOVA clearance documents, you won't be able to get it registered here.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went through this when I imported the Volvo PV444.
If you use an experienced shipper, they will sort out the initial paperwork for you.
Than, as Rick says, there is a NOVA declaration to be made when the car first arrives. This is done online within 14 days of arrival, is fairly straightforward and if there is any duty to be paid, then you can do that on line as well.
You then apply to DVLA, using a set of forms that are ordered on line, but are posted to you. You will need your original registration documents from the country that you are importing from, plus an insurance certificate ( there are classic car insurers who will give you a policy on the basis of a chassis or VIN number if you explain circumstances). Finally, if your car is eligible for an MOT then you will need to take it for one of those.
This should in theory get you an age related number, as opposed to a Q reg which implies that the car is of unknown age. In practise, DVLA are quite bloody minded about this, and it would be advisable to join the owners club for your car, who will have the necessary contacts to get you a certificate that confirms the car's age. The process is vey pedantic and in my limited experience, you need quite a lot of patience, and need to make sure that you're application is thoroughly filled out, otherwise they will just send it back.
Cost is something like £50, but they will not cash your cheque until the application has been passed so at least it is a one off payment.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikeC wrote:
Daniel,

Was the BSA imported into Brazil when new, or was it originally a UK-registered car imported at a later date? If the latter, and you have documentation to prove its identity, then there should be no duty to pay and you may even be able to get the original registration number re-issued.


Thank you all for the useful information.

MikeC, I don't have any kind of paper for the BSA, only the street documents. I don't have a clue when or how she got here.

Of course it was my intent to carry my vehicles but it can be very expensive. (I also need to move my dogs)

I have to really think about that. Maybe only the BSA, to bring her to his homeland, and it's probably cheaper to share a container.
About the cars... well, I know that i'll have a brand new (old) choices over there. And probably will be a new discover know about some motors that I don't usually mess.

Let's start a new life even with the car models and brands. Smile

Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not having any history with the car isn't necessarily a problem. My import had absolutely no documentation at all. It was a barn find that had already been off the road when Sweden computerised its car registry and therefore did not officially exist.
What DVLA are interested in is proving that a car is what it says it is in terms of age, type, model, etc. and that it is reasonably original. Any doubt about any of these leads to a Q suffix registration. Cars that do end up with Q plates tend to be those that are heavily customised, or one off specials.
What you really want of course is a registration number related to the age of your car (or motorcycle), and if manufacturers records are not available, then the owners club for the vehicle will probably be able to help find the year of manufacture from the serial numbers on the frame.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am hoping the BSA described is a bike, which either the BSA owners Club, or the VMCC will have the original manufacture details for, enabling an application for either the original plate (if pre-registered in the UK) or an age related plate.
You can join either on-line, but from experience, the VMCC records will identify the machine from frame/engine number, so you could e-mail the VMCC, with these details, and they can give you an idea (free as a member)for you obtain a number plate.
It may be worth joining the VMCC sooner rather than later, as we have been informed the subscription fee will rise after at the end of the month. Joining as a UK member is around half the fee of an overseas member, so if you already have an address in the UK you intend to move to, use that.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ka wrote:
I am hoping the BSA described is a bike, which either the BSA owners Club, or the VMCC will have the original manufacture details for, enabling an application for either the original plate (if pre-registered in the UK) or an age related plate.
You can join either on-line...


Ka, great information, thank you very much.
In Brazil nobody cares too much about the vehicle history, no one knows how she got here or when. The government have changed the plates format years ago and all the past historic was lost. It's a mess.
I try to found out the previous owners, but unfortunately I can not go too deep. If those Clubs have any information will be really great and gratefully.

Norustplease, I have the property and transit documents, but here the documents only show the VIN number. A couple of year ago they started to put the engine number also. We have a very big lack of information here.

The good thing is, if you have the name of the previous owners, you have a good chance to find him at facebook and ask about the vehicles. Smile

But anyway, I already in contact with James Cargo Services and asking about the transportation. Based on the prices, will be only the motorcycle. Sad But no problem, she is the most important. Smile


Well, going to search about the clubs right now, and join. Unfortunately I don't have address in the UK yet, but it's not a problem.
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