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Riley1489



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:53 pm    Post subject: Original dealer Reply with quote

I'm trying to research the history of my 1960 Riley 1.5 and it's nearly as complete as I'd like but I'm just missing the name and address of the original dealership that sold the vehicle. I know it's probably in the Birmingham area based on it's original registration number (721 AOP now on a yellow 1998 Porsche) but has anyone any ideas on how to track down the original dealership? British Motor Industry Heritage Trust at Gaydon perhaps?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, mine only gave the name of dealer but not actual garage. Mine had outkets in T Wells and Tonbridge.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave

Cheers.

Off to Gaydon it is then.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you done a V888 previous owner search through the DVLA? I'm not sure how well it works if the car isn't on the original registration, or how far back the details go, but I got a copy of each of the V5 "change of keeper" applications and the origjnal registration application which (just about, given the poor quality of their microfiche records) showed me the supplying dealer. Costs a fiver, I think.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike

Tried that and it didn't throw up anything I didn't really know although it was a useful exercise and did give me a few other documents that I can add into the history of the car.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Graham,

Have you traced the first owner or relatives of same? If so then they might be the best source given the number of BMC dealerships in the Birmingham area.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter, thanks for getting in touch.

I wrote to the original owner's address and the current owner of the house phoned to say that he had passed away some years ago and they had no details of the whereabouts of any relatives. They didn't have to do that and I was just grateful that they took the time to call.

So, hopefully Gaydon will come up with something or it may just be that the original dealership and location remains a mystery forever and a day.

Now, if it was an American TV police show or Spooks in the UK then all will have been discovered in a nano-second but real life isn't just like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From another source I've managed to ascertain that the original registration records for Birmingham have been destroyed so trying to find out the original dealership is likely to prove fruitless.......I shall carry on digging though.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike

Just had another look at the paperwork supplied by DVLA in response to my V888 enquiry and they have provided copies of microfiche of the original logbook. However what they hold is from page 7 onwards and not the front page which have shown the original dealership and first owner etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riley1489 wrote:

I wrote to the original owner's address and the current owner of the house phoned to say that he had passed away some years ago and they had no details of the whereabouts of any relatives.


Hi Graham,

If you get a copy of his death certificate you will probably find that the reporter was a relative and may still live at the address they gave on the certificate. Family photos may exist of your car and possibly other history.

See: http://www.jaguardriverforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=95

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter

Thanks for the suggestion. Let's see where this leads......

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Death certificate tracked down and ordered......
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any post war BMC vehicle I have owned has had the supping dealer on the Heritage certificate, except the MGA which was exported.

I would think this will be your best approach.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave

Thanks for the suggestion and it's certainly is an option and I plan to go to Gaydon to do some research or when I'm here just order a certificate.

I will attempt to get in touch with any relatives just to see if they have any information or historical pictures that could copy. All adds to the history I'm compiling.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heritage certificate come up trumps for mine.

Archers of Shirley.
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