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[Ellis]

Can someone help me out with something please.

I have restored most of the wood trim parts of my 1964 Jaguar Mark 2 but some of the smaller pieces are problematic.
The quality of the veneering was not good even when new and age has taken it's toll. The items that really need redoing are the "A", "B" post trim panels and the "hockeysticks" - the wood/walnut trim above the doors.

The base wood is in good order but the veneering is cracked or split in places.
I have heard of walnut effect transfers which could solve the problem without going to the trouble of reveneering.
I also saw a glimpse of the finished result on "Wheeler Dealers" where this transfer system was used on the damaged wooden trim of their American restorations.

Does anybody know about this process, please?
The only references I have seen are US in origin and advertisments only on US Ebay.

Thank you.
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1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet

[Old Wrench]

[colwyn500]

I think that there are good uses if such transfers exist.
My pre-war Austin has a real walnut dash which did restore beautifully by the application of some simple techniques and a lot of patience. But it also has some metal trims on the doors which were originally walnut finished by a photographic process that had a poor longevity.
I painted mine with a deep brown enamel which matched the shade of the walnut but the transfers would be perfect for restoring them
More info please.

[Old Wrench]

Perhaps this guy?

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=46048
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[norustplease]

There are people who can do this, and there was an article in one of the Classic Car mags about it a couple of years ago. I will see if I can find it.

I have heard of the people on the link below:

http://www.southeastcustomcoatings.co.uk/index.html

but suspect that its expensive and not sure how good a match you would get. How about chatting up your local antique restorers, they might be able to sort out something for you.
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1964 Volvo PV544
1957 Austin A55 Mk 1
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[norustplease]

Article is in Classics Monthly January 2013. I will see if I can scan it in if you are interested.
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1953 Citroen Traction
1964 Volvo PV544
1957 Austin A55 Mk 1
Boring Tucson SUV

[Old Wrench]

A further thought occurs.

One way of emulating wood veneer is Graining. Since graining is merely decorated paint, then it can be achieved on metal as well as wood.

http://www.painting-effects.co.uk/walnut.htm

http://timbizley.co.uk/faux-wood-graining/wood-graining-burr-walnut.html

http://www.handover.co.uk/Books,_Magazines_and_DVDs-DVDs-Association_of_Painting_Craft_Teachers_DVDs/c151_198_201/p41096/DVD_:_Burr_Walnut_and_Mahogany_Feather_with_B_Holgate_and_R_Plumpton/product_info.html

Here, a member of the Austin Seven Club explains more.

http://www.austin7.org/Technical%20Articles/Woodgrain/
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[colwyn500]

I remember that technique getting a mention in the Austin Ten Drivers' Club , but it takes a fair bit of skill to emulate the detail of the original finish.

[Ellis]

Dear me!

The first admonishment of the year by Old Wrench.

In case some of you are thinking I am a bodger, here are a photo or two of the nearside door cappings which I have restored myself :

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and a close up of a repair :

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The larger pieces are the most straightforward to restore (relatively speaking!) but the small parts are difficult to restore properly.
The walnut transfers I refer to are not "Formica effect" as in 1970's Fords and Rover 2000's or a Fablon sheet but a vinyl gloss transfer which gives you this effect :

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No, it's not the stick on plastic "fake" wood you can buy as kits either.

I think the above may be the way to do the tricky pieces.

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1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet

[Ellis]

[Old Wrench]

[Ellis]

[quote="norustplease"]Article is in Classics Monthly January 2013. I will see if I can scan it in if you are interested.[/quote

Yes please.
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1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet

[Ellis]

[52classic]

This is similar to the self adhesive wood trim kits that used to turn up on Jap imported 4X4's. They are done with a process known as 'doming' Google it and you'll see that the equipment and the resin is not expensive.

I bought a set years ago (the remains of the stuff have long since dried up!) but it was pretty easy to do after a couple of practice runs.

To do a small piece of trim the first process is to photograph a piece of the existing veneer where it is in good condition. Then from a helpful sign maker, have your photograph output onto a piece of self adhesive vinyl, several times larger than the piece you want but with the veneer bit 100% original size.

Now make a paper template of the piece you want to 'veneer.' transfer that to the vinyl sheet then cut around it with a scalpel so that you can 'weed' out the vinyl you don't want, leaving the carrier paper intact.

This is a bit tricky and if you were doing several it would be easier to scan your template and have the sign people do the cutting.

Now apply the 'doming' resin with the 2 part applicator supplied.

Once dry you can simply lift the 'veneers' off the backing sheet and stick them to the car. The result is pretty durable and convincing as long as you don't look too close.

[Old Wrench]

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