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1pound
Joined: 06 Oct 2014 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:05 pm Post subject: Ace manual tyre changer (HF) circa 1960 seized |
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Hi
I recently bought (see picture) Ace manual tyre changer (HF) circa 1960.
I asked before leaving if it was working yes was the answer from the guys wife who was left to deal with me. When I got home I realised honesty is not the best policy for some.
Anyway does anybody know (or have instructions) how to remove the cone? Is it threaded by that 4 spoked thing? It wont budge at the moment and it would help to know how to remove it to mount a tyre. The rest I'm fine with - lots of youtube for that
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Heating to red heat is a pretty foolproof way of unseizing rusted screw threads. This really means oxy-acetylene. If do you don't have this then take it to somewhere that does.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
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1pound
Joined: 06 Oct 2014 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:02 am Post subject: |
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peter scott wrote: | Heating to red heat is a pretty foolproof way of unseizing rusted screw threads. This really means oxy-acetylene. If do you don't have this then take it to somewhere that does.
Peter |
okay its just I dont know where the thread is on this.
If somebody who has used an Ace could tell me how the cone is secured and where that's what would help. |
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47p2
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:07 am Post subject: |
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From your picture it looks like a slip fit and held in place with a pin through the top, possibly using different size spacers for a correct fit _________________ ROVER
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1pound
Joined: 06 Oct 2014 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:36 am Post subject: |
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47p2 wrote: | From your picture it looks like a slip fit and held in place with a pin through the top, possibly using different size spacers for a correct fit |
yes it looks like you might be right - I found this picture on ebay the guy want £200 for it - are they really worth that?
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47p2
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Too much like hard work, too easy to damage a rim, too easy to damage yourself or a tyre... Leave it to the professionals
My local garage charges me £5.00 to change a tyre over so would take 40 changes before I broke even _________________ ROVER
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4104 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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47p2 wrote: | Too much like hard work, too easy to damage a rim, too easy to damage yourself or a tyre... Leave it to the professionals
My local garage charges me £5.00 to change a tyre over so would take 40 changes before I broke even |
I'd agree, I have one of these tyre changes ; one challenge is that they need perminent fixture to the ground, and then space all around, so end up taking a load of space, ok if one has free space or changing loads of tyres, but otherwise it just got in the way 99% of the time so its in storage somewhere !!
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Dipster
Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Posts: 408 Location: UK, France and Portugal - unless I am travelling....
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I used to use one of these back in the 60`s! As I recall I had a pneumatic bead breaker to unseat the tyre, the wheel was then plopped on to the seat, the conical piece went on next, a pin went through the lowest hole and the top part of that was unscrewed to take up the play. A quick swizz round with the special tyre lever and the tyre was half off. Lift up the lower portion of the tyre, lever again and the tyre was off.
I am pretty sure that was how I used it but it is 50 years ago......
It earnt a lot of money for the garage (and me!). It was busiest on Saturdays, our busiest MOT day, when so many cars in that period had poor tyres. We were able to sell replacements there and then to enable a certificate to be issued. And, very often, whoever was fitting tyres got a nice tip of the punter.
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Phil - Nottingham
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1252 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I have a modern version (made in China?) and painted bright red. The cone just unscrews anticlock using the X handles. Its only a big nut welded in the tube and a big threaded stud/stud so heat may be needed on that. They work well _________________ Rover P2
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Whitegoatie
Joined: 01 Feb 2016 Posts: 59 Location: Stamford, Lincolnshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Not seen one of those for a long time, I changed hundreds of tyres on one just like that (sans rust) in the seventies.
You break the bead by locating the hook of the hinged tool in the holes on the post below the cone, and pushing the spade part between the rim and the bead of the tyre, both sides.
The wheel then goes on to the table with the shallow dish of the wheel rim facing up, then the cone screws down, centralising the rim and you drop a bolt through the cone and through a wheel stud hole to stop it spinning.
You then hook the ball end of the long tool under the tyre bead, then pull the tool to the middle and wind the tyre off using the centre post as a pivot/lever. The other end of the long tool is used to slip the tyre back on to the rim.
Heat should free the cone, or keep giving it a squirt of WD and tapping with a mallet. |
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