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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reliable condenser Reply with quote

http://www.swiftune.com/Product/535/swiftune-competition-condenser.aspx

I know it seems expensive but if you want to stick with a conventional ignition system this might be the answer to the poor quality items that can fail.

I am not making a recommendation; merely a suggestion.

http://www.gsparkplug.com/ignition/condensers
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or go to Maplin and purchase a 0.22uf 600v working capacitor for a few pence Smile
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
Or go to Maplin and purchase a 0.22uf 600v working capacitor for a few pence Smile


Sorry, I can't find the 600v capacitor.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/022uf-275v-x2-rfi-metallised-polypropylene-capacitor-n70cn
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colwyn500



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Reliable condenser Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
http://www.swiftune.com/Product/535/swiftune-competition-condenser.aspx

I know it seems expensive but if you want to stick with a conventional ignition system this might be the answer to the poor quality items that can fail.

I am not making a recommendation; merely a suggestion.

http://www.gsparkplug.com/ignition/condensers



I looked into that one, but with an additional £10 postage you're talking £40.
I know you can't put a value on things like reliability, but it's a bit much for me.
There's basically, nothing to a condenser and it's the way that they are crimped together and the quality of the seal of the wiring which lets down most of the modern, copy items.
I tracked down a genuine, old-stock, cleanly-boxed item for my car; in my case it was a Bosch. It was as cheap as a repro component and I don't think there is anything about it that can have significantly degraded over the years.
The problem for British cars seems to be that there are modern repros which are boxed, very cynically, in Lucas and Remax packaging. the manufacturers of which would seem to have only the most remote connection to the original manufacturer.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed that the 'Remax' items are either produced in Turkey or Italy. There is no reason to suppose that they are inferior as I doubt very much that the Green spark plug Co. would stock rubbish - but you never know.!

Anything made in China, on the other hand, would ring alarm bells. Presumably, it is just a matter of time until the standard improves there also but at the moment it would seem that they have the same kind of reputation that the Japs had at the beginning.

Just a little tip that I would like to pass on... generally, condensers do better if they are clamped outside the distributor rather than under the cap. They prefer not to get too hot, I'm told.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have replaced condensers in the past whilst trying to rectify misfiring but the faults never turned out to be due to that. I don't think I have ever actually needed to change one.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have replaced condensers in the past whilst trying to rectify misfiring but the faults never turned out to be due to that. I don't think I have ever actually needed to change one.

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Penguin45



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I caused chaos on the M62 last summer in the roadworks due to a duff condenser on a client's car. He swore there was a new one in the boot - there wasn't.

I get all my ignition components from Martin the Distributor Doctor.

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Ray White



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penguin45 wrote:

I get all my ignition components from Martin the Distributor Doctor.

P45.


Martin has been a great help to me in the past and I would have no hesitation in recommending him. Very Happy
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PAUL BEAUMONT



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a bit with Peter on this, in all of my motoring experience I have only ever known one condenser to fail and that had mechanical damage. I am currently running one in a NOS distributor I bought a bit back with a 1957 manufacturing date on it. Maybe replacing an old one with a new manufacture is a retrograde step!
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colwyn500



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAUL BEAUMONT wrote:
I am a bit with Peter on this, in all of my motoring experience I have only ever known one condenser to fail and that had mechanical damage. I am currently running one in a NOS distributor I bought a bit back with a 1957 manufacturing date on it. Maybe replacing an old one with a new manufacture is a retrograde step!


Exactly what I have found; definitely don't change one unless it is causing problems and then replace with one of old manufacture if possible.
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47Jag



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the condenser fails you can tell by the state of the points. The usually are blue and burned. So if the points look OK the chances are that the condenser is good.

Art
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