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Rick
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:47 pm    Post subject: London to Brighton - ever taken part? Reply with quote

Evening all,

Just perusing these photos (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/classic/2016-london-to-brighton-veteran-car-run/2016-london-to-brighton-veteran-car-run3/), had me wondering whether anyone here has driven on the veteran London to Brighton run? Or perhaps on one of the other L2B runs, say for classic commercials, or old cars?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, sort of. I took part in the VW London to Brighton run in my 67 split camper back in 2003, and another year, cycled it!!

Photos might follow if I can find any......
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I discovered something recently that may be of interest to readers here. Apparently, the FBHVC, assisted by the University of Brighton, conducted an economic impact assessment of the LBR on the area of Brighton and Hove. The benefit to the area resulting from the 2011 veteran car run amounted to a conservative £1,121,500. The amount by which the area benefits from all the other spin off events however is huge.

I have never been on the Run myself but I am still keen to acquire a pre 1905 car to restore and enter.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive not done it but would early love to one day, perhaps as a crew member etc.
Anyone got an early car and fancy an Old Classic Car team?

Kevin
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevin2306 wrote:
Ive not done it but would early love to one day, perhaps as a crew member etc.
Anyone got an early car and fancy an Old Classic Car team?

Kevin


Count me in, please. I don't mind getting out and pushing!

I mentioned somewhere before how I came close to buying a 1902 Steam car for not a lot of money but the wife talked me out of going for it.

Regretted it ever since.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like you Ray, it is something I would love to do. My wife has kind of banned me from buying more cars (for a while) but a pre-1905 would be a cracking good car to work on and enter. Mind you, I think I would want something that resembles a car - not a basket mounted on the front a motorised 3 wheel bike!
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich5ltr wrote:
Like you Ray, it is something I would love to do. My wife has kind of banned me from buying more cars (for a while) but a pre-1905 would be a cracking good car to work on and enter. Mind you, I think I would want something that resembles a car - not a basket mounted on the front a motorised 3 wheel bike!


I must say I agree about the tri - cars. Steam cars are another area that I think may hold a degree of bafflement. Although I love the idea I don't know if I have the depth of engineering knowledge required to get one to the finish line!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a chap with a Stanley Steamer who goes to Goodwood events. I've often chatted to him and watched him prepare the car for take off! It looks totally baffling and bonkers fun! Last time I chatted to him I am sure he said he stops every 20 miles or so to fill the water tank (I may be wrong).
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misterbridger



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done the L2B Mini run ten years in succession. 2,500 Minis together on Brighton sea front is quite a sight! Can take four hours or more if you're late away from the start at Crystal Palace, so these days I park outside and join in with first to leave.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich5ltr wrote:
There's a chap with a Stanley Steamer who goes to Goodwood events. I've often chatted to him and watched him prepare the car for take off! It looks totally baffling and bonkers fun! Last time I chatted to him I am sure he said he stops every 20 miles or so to fill the water tank (I may be wrong).


There are two types of steam boilers. Fire tube and water tube.

The fire tube boiler as found in Stanley or Locomobile is like a big kettle where the boiler is full of water heated by fire in tubes like in a locomotive. The boiler is wound with miles of piano wire so is theoretically quite safe. Hmmm...

The water tube boiler is much safer as it can't explode. Guaranteed. This is the system used by the White (No known relation). The water is carried in tubes immersed in water like in your central heating boiler.

The reason the Stanley guy has to keep stopping for water is because he doesn't have a condenser. The White does.

The biggest problem with a steam car is the pilot light. It either keeps going out or it sets the car on fire. Different fuels have been tried but it would seem Hexane is best for the pilot and kerosene for the boiler.

The MPG of fuel is poor which is one reason we don't have them today. True, the early cars took ages to get started but that wouldn't be a problem with water tube boilers.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know an awful lot more about it than I do Ray, so... when you buying one Wink I think I would stick to a Renault or something a little more familiar.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich5ltr wrote:
You know an awful lot more about it than I do Ray, so... when you buying one Wink I think I would stick to a Renault or something a little more familiar.


I will buy a lottery ticket...that should do it . Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote=" Mind you, I think I would want something that resembles a car - not a basket mounted on the front a motorised 3 wheel bike![/quote]

I rather like the fact that very early cars had no set formula and were simply what the designer thought they should be.
Safety did not seem to be high on the agenda with passengers sitting out front or, in some cases, sitting directly in front of the driver severely restricting the view.
The Curved Dash Oldsmobile is a common site at the L to B. The driver sits directly above the engine and is separated from the heavy flywheel by a very few inches and a thin wooden seat.
The consequences of this coming adrift do not bear thinking about.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In another thread we have been discussing the merits (or otherwise) of kit cars. I find it absolutely fascinating to follow the articles by T. Hyler White, published in 'The English Mechanic and World of Science' from the beginning of the 20th century, which give readers the opportunity of building their own car. In effect the first kit cars! Incidentally, the first of these 'English Mechanics' was a steam car and a steam tricycle. These projects were very popular and some examples survive to this day and are regular participants on the LBR.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would love to take part in a run like this.
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