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Inglewood
Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 183 Location: Stone, Staffordshire
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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From Wiki
Quote: | Fingerposts erected in the West Riding until the mid-1960s had a distinctive style. At the top of the post was a roundel in the form of a hollow circle with a horizontal line across the middle, displaying "Yorks W.R.", the name of the fingerpost's location, and a grid reference. Other counties, apart from Dorset, did not display a grid reference and did not have a horizontal bar through the roundel. From 1964, many fingerposts were replaced by ones in the modern style, but some of the old style still survive within the West Riding boundaries. |
Can anyone find one still out there?[/quote]
Search for "old road sign with grid reference", a few image results show up. |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7121 Location: Edinburgh
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Thanks Peter. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
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MVPeters
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 822 Location: Northern MA, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I believe Somerset has a policy to re-furbish & re-use cast iron signs where feasable. There are a few in use that still have the pointing-hand style of destination arm.
Can a National Grid Reference be input to a UK GPS/SatNav? (I'm in the US so can't check). _________________ Mike - MVPeters at comcast.net
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Certainly won't enter on mine or any of the built in ones I've used.
Here is a quiz question for you.
The grid obviously uses squares, and although Latitude lines are parallel they are curved (concentric to the N Pole), lines of Longitude are straight but taper inwards as you move northwards.
Which line of Longitude is the Datum for the UK National Grid? _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6330 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Penman wrote: | Hi
Certainly won't enter on mine or any of the built in ones I've used.
Here is a quiz question for you.
The grid obviously uses squares, and although Latitude lines are parallel they are curved (concentric to the N Pole), lines of Longitude are straight but taper inwards as you move northwards.
Which line of Longitude is the Datum for the UK National Grid? |
That, I would suggest, is a leading question. My first point of call was Wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_meridian_(Greenwich) |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7121 Location: Edinburgh
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Sorry Ray, it isn't the Prime Meridian. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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OK as there are no more takers.
It is the 2 Degrees West line.
Quote: | In 1494 the first prime meridian was drawn through the Azores islands by the crowns of Portugal and Castile under the terms of the Treaty of Tordesillas, as the two kingdoms wrangled over possession of the globe in the aftermath of Christopher Columbus' discovery of America. This artificial division of the earth became a feature of the subsequent trading of territories between rival kingdoms. By 1884, as a result of the British Empire's commercial pre-eminence, the globe's prime meridian was definitively drawn through Greenwich. By 1938 the line two degrees west was chosen as England's prime meridian running as it did through most of the country, from Berwick-Upon-Tweed on the Northumbrian coast to the Isle of Purbeck in Dorset.
Guided by his Ordnance Survey map, Nicholas Crane's book Two Degrees West walks the longitudinal tightrope of this most manmade of geographical lines, stretching nearly 600 kilometres from north to south, never deviating more than a few metres either side of the meridian. The result is a diverse cross-section of England in the late 1990s, from the bleak agrarian world of Northumbria and the Pennines to the racial and urban hybridity of the Black Country. Two Degrees West is an idiosyncratic, offbeat travel book, offering a unique view on the state of the nation at the end of the 1990s. |
This is one of the books I recommend to friends who are interested in travel books. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Penman wrote: | Hi
OK as there are no more takers.
It is the 2 Degrees West line.
Quote: | In 1494 the first prime meridian was drawn through the Azores islands by the crowns of Portugal and Castile under the terms of the Treaty of Tordesillas, as the two kingdoms wrangled over possession of the globe in the aftermath of Christopher Columbus' discovery of America. This artificial division of the earth became a feature of the subsequent trading of territories between rival kingdoms. By 1884, as a result of the British Empire's commercial pre-eminence, the globe's prime meridian was definitively drawn through Greenwich. By 1938 the line two degrees west was chosen as England's prime meridian running as it did through most of the country, from Berwick-Upon-Tweed on the Northumbrian coast to the Isle of Purbeck in Dorset.
Guided by his Ordnance Survey map, Nicholas Crane's book Two Degrees West walks the longitudinal tightrope of this most manmade of geographical lines, stretching nearly 600 kilometres from north to south, never deviating more than a few metres either side of the meridian. The result is a diverse cross-section of England in the late 1990s, from the bleak agrarian world of Northumbria and the Pennines to the racial and urban hybridity of the Black Country. Two Degrees West is an idiosyncratic, offbeat travel book, offering a unique view on the state of the nation at the end of the 1990s. |
This is one of the books I recommend to friends who are interested in travel books. |
+1, it's a good read. |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7121 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I think it's a very odd choice. Must have been chosen by an Aberdonian.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Surely the Prime Meridian is the Prime Meridian of the day, I am certain that if you dig down 2 degrees away from the present Prime Meridian you will not find the real and original one. If a 40mph speed limit is changed to 30mph, then 30mph is the present speed limit. An interesting bit of info supplied by Penman.
Lat-Lon Coordinates cover the Globe.
Go to 46 deg 45 min 15.13 N and 64 deg 58 min 35.91 W and you will be at the bottom of my driveway. Some hotels include Lat-Lon on their website and GPS takes one to that exact point. |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1955 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Let's not get into Great Circles...otherwise we are liable to tie ourselves in knots? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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alastairq wrote: | Let's not get into Great Circles...otherwise we are liable to tie ourselves in knots? | Nah !!. just make a note of the coord's when you set off |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
The reason OS chose that, was mentioned in the first of the bold sections in my quote above. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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