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Ellis



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:07 pm    Post subject: Any car buy we will. Reply with quote

I'm not trying to imitate the Yoda (Star Wars) form of diction but you can all deduce what I'm referring to with promising looking TV adverts supported by well known personalities.

The reality of the eagerness to buy your car is a little different to what actually happens when you offer your car to these relatively new ways of disposing of your old car.

The case in point was/is the current transport of the eldest son of one of my oldest and closest friends.
As his 18th birthday present he was given his mother's Peugeot 207 diesel two door. Now he's 20 and needs a van for work and to go away camping and orienteering on weekends with girlfriend as company.

He phoned one of these companies after having the car valeted and was told to attend an independent garage to have the car inspected and assessed.
He had the vehicle MOT'd for 12 months and the 207 was in good order.

He duly arrived at the establishment 50 miles away and was made to wait as his car was examined. The examiner approached him with a list of discovered "faults".
Non original paint on some panels,bonnet stonechips, tyres not in acceptable condition and the service history was largely at non franchised garages. He was told his car was unsuitable for "the company's" purposes - too old (09 registration) and was advised to sell it on a certain well known internet auction site or privately. All this could have been explained on first telephone contact..

Just before the onset of last winter my neighbour decided to sell his Toyota Hi-Lux double cab pick up (54 registration) and he contacted the same company.. He was asked to describe the vehicle's condition over the phone which was only in average condition despite ony 58k miles. He was asked to email some photos of the Hi-Lux.
No inspection and he was offered a price on the phone which he accepted. Two days later two men turned up on a rainy morning, gave the Toyota a cursory look over and turned to their hi-tech phones. Ten minutes later the funds were transferred to my neighbour's bank account and the Toyota (which really needed a new clutch) was driven away.

Interesting?

No doubt the Hi-Lux would have been valetted to perfection and days later standing proudly on a 4x4 specialist's forecourt at a substantial price.
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Rootes75



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a friend who tried these, he had a Golf which was very nice and only 6-7 years old. He was offered over 1000 under book price for the car after the inspection. He didn't sell it to them.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard good and bad stories about them, I guess they have certain requirements and standards, and maybe they have a "wants list" (and probably a "don't wants" list) that would vary from time to time.

Many years ago I was thinking of selling my Audi coupe, and we'd had a chap come around to work offering to buy company vehicles when they get to disposal time and he'd left his card. On the card was an outline drawing of an Audi coupe. I call him, he comes around, looks at the car, says "no, it's not the kind of car we buy". Well, maybe don't have a picture of it on your card, then.

Slightly o/t, but I keep seeing a van locally with something like "we purchase all cars in cheshire.com" written down the side. I'd love to hear how they'd adapt the wbac "jingle" to suit that.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always assumed that they buy anything because they purchase at less than trade rate, so therefore will make a return in the majority of cases.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeEdwards wrote:
I've heard good and bad stories about them, I guess they have certain requirements and standards, and maybe they have a "wants list" (and probably a "don't wants" list) that would vary from time to time.

Many years ago I was thinking of selling my Audi coupe, and we'd had a chap come around to work offering to buy company vehicles when they get to disposal time and he'd left his card. On the card was an outline drawing of an Audi coupe. I call him, he comes around, looks at the car, says "no, it's not the kind of car we buy". Well, maybe don't have a picture of it on your card, then.

Slightly o/t, but I keep seeing a van locally with something like "we purchase all cars in cheshire.com" written down the side. I'd love to hear how they'd adapt the wbac "jingle" to suit that.
A variation on that theme One well known insurance company used a 1959 Cadillac in their adverts. A friend asked for a quote to insure his American car. He was told they didn't insure American cars. A complaint to the Advertising Standards Agency and the advert was dropped
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Likewise, I figured they would simply pay rather less than they figured the car would make at auction.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
I always assumed that they buy anything because they purchase at less than trade rate, so therefore will make a return in the majority of cases.


And to be fair, the slant on a lot of their more recent ads does mention how the seller will get less than selling privately, but with possibly less hassle. I suspect they might have been encouraged to make that clearer, though as you said, it'd be pretty clear anyway.
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Bitumen Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to me if you want less hassle you could just enter it for a local auction yourself. Or are people just lazy?

IMO you can't beat a private sale involving a wad of used, untraceable notes...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the hilux will be worth much more to someone that the same age car.
i had a d/cab one for sale as i had 2, it went quickly and i am sure it went overseas, despite it being in very good nick for it's age.
the mk3's especialy are worth a lot as they have a solid front axle like a land rover defender.
aparently they cut them in half behind the cab, container them up and once in africa or asia they then get welded back togther!
i reckon tjose 'we buy any car' sites are only after certain vehicles and very often will not give you a true value.
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Ellis



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
I always assumed that they buy anything because they purchase at less than trade rate, so therefore will make a return in the majority of cases.


I believe that most of the well known ones are owned by the big car auction companies.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The export-of-parts must be the reason why my 15 year old suzuki Grand Vitara is quoted at a good 100 pounds less, than my 25 year old daihatsu Fourtrak? The Fourtrak's value seems to be in its engine alone?

{The Suzuki, being made this century, is an abhorrent thing, only good for getting from A to B..and not very nicely either.}
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading alastairq's post I will go somewhat off topic but relevant in view of his what he told us.

If you own a tired or time expired diesel engined Mercedes car, don't just take it the local breaker's yard.
I have heard of three examples recently of local people advertising their old diesel engined Mercedes on Ebay only to have them snapped up by eager buyers. One still had a few weeks MOT and somebody from Deal in Kent travelled up, paid in cash and drove it away.

Others without MOT's and described as "spares or repairs" were equally sought after and were collected on trailers.

The reason? Their engines and transmissions are removed and sold on overseas to Africa, the Far East and former Soviet block countries.
It seems that rural area cars are in demand presumably because their engines have been subject to less wear and tear than urban or city examples.
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consul 57



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alastairq wrote:
The export-of-parts must be the reason why my 15 year old suzuki Grand Vitara is quoted at a good 100 pounds less, than my 25 year old daihatsu Fourtrak? The Fourtrak's value seems to be in its engine alone?

{The Suzuki, being made this century, is an abhorrent thing, only good for getting from A to B..and not very nicely either.}

i have a 2000 vitara mk1, love mine especialy in the mud, not great on the raod i grant you but off it, brilliant.
yes the fortrack is a valuable machine, not many left in the uk now.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a 2000 vitara mk1, love mine especially in the mud, not great on the road I grant you but off it, brilliant.
yes the Fourtrack is a valuable machine, not many left in the uk now.


Not if the facebook owners groups are anything to go by? [One for discussion, one for bits-for-sale]

Appears to me to be 10 times more postings than other groups I watch...

My dislikes of the GV [mines a 4 door, I really want rid, but it's a 'stand in' taxi for my son] really stem from the modern interior [I feel squeezed in]....and the fact nothing can be stacked on the dash...unlike the DAihatsu, whose dash is more of a mantlepiece, meaning coffee cups, sarnies, and Maccydee's drive-throughs can be placed where they wont get elbowed or spilt everywhere....Plus, plenty of room to move about inside [room for long legs too, unlike every Landrover deaf-ender or series?].....Also, Suzuki spares are such a price [compared to the DAihatsu]...They both rot for the JApanese Empire.......I've found biscuit tins made of better steel.....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year when I decided to change my car (2001 Mercedes c220 cdi avantgard estate) I gave them a call, the car was in good condition full leather trim 130,000 miles full service history, they offered me 1,200 , the local Mercedes dealership offered me more.
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