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greenbeam
Joined: 10 Jun 2015 Posts: 85 Location: Adelaide, Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:52 am Post subject: Pre-war silk rope door pulls - any tips??? |
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Hi all,
I need to reproduce or repair these silk rope door pulls for my pre-war Armstrong siddeley, but I have no idea about technique, materials, terminology.
Is anyone able to point me to information about them - how they are made, what materials were used, etc?
Specifically, what is the 'braid' wrapped around top and bottom, and what is the 'macrame' weaving around the wooden ball at the end?
80+ year ago they were a deep green colour - in case that helps with suppliers.
PS - I know that Complete Automobilist sells the 9" ones, but I also need 4" long ones, so that would solve only half my problem (never mind the cost of them!)
Cheers,
Paul. _________________ 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series 3
1935 Armstrong Siddeley 17HP Sports Saloon
1935 Armstrong Siddeley 17HP Coachbuilt Saloon |
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Ray White
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Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6318 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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There is likely a problem with you being in Australia!
I know where you could probably buy new ones if you so wished. Even if you don't go down that route the people I know will be happy to help if they can.
The company I am thinking of is not far from here and is called:
https://www.trimmingsbydesign.c
They have a huge and fascinating archive of automotive trimmings dating back many years. My own experience was when they re made some unique pasting lace for my 1930 Austin Swallow. ( the little car uses no less than 25 yards!) Other Swallow owners also benefitted because the trim could be ordered in whatever colour combination they required.
Remarkably this lovely old factory still uses the same loom on which the original was produced and some of their other machines are also pretty ancient...so I am sure your door pulls can be reproduced.
Can they be repaired? I don't know but I suspect they were made on a loom.
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petelang
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 444 Location: Nottingham
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greenbeam
Joined: 10 Jun 2015 Posts: 85 Location: Adelaide, Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Pete Lang, thank you - this is what I hoped to find - a parallel use or similar materials - I will follow up.
Cheers,
Paul. _________________ 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series 3
1935 Armstrong Siddeley 17HP Sports Saloon
1935 Armstrong Siddeley 17HP Coachbuilt Saloon |
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greenbeam
Joined: 10 Jun 2015 Posts: 85 Location: Adelaide, Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: |
I know where you could probably buy new ones if you so wished. Even if you don't go down that route the people I know will be happy to help if they can.
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Hi Ray, thatnks for the tip. I have sent trimmingsbydesign.co.uk a message - let's see what they say.
Just to be clear - are you saying trimmingsbydesign is the company where I could buy the new ones? I'm not averse to that if I can get both lengths.
Cheers,
Paul. _________________ 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series 3
1935 Armstrong Siddeley 17HP Sports Saloon
1935 Armstrong Siddeley 17HP Coachbuilt Saloon |
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Ray White
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Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6318 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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greenbeam wrote: | Ray White wrote: |
I know where you could probably buy new ones if you so wished. Even if you don't go down that route the people I know will be happy to help if they can.
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Hi Ray, thatnks for the tip. I have sent trimmingsbydesign.co.uk a message - let's see what they say.
Just to be clear - are you saying trimmingsbydesign is the company where I could buy the new ones? I'm not averse to that if I can get both lengths.
Cheers,
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Hi Paul. Yes. You send the samples and ask them to recreate what you want and they will give you an estimate of the cost. They are, of course, a commercial enterprise and will no doubt expect an order for more than just a "one off"... unless they have something suitable in stock.
I had to place an order for more than I wanted but fortunately was able to sell surplus braid to other Swallow owners which considering the cost was very fortunate! Then again, the value of having a correctly trimmed car more than makes up for it!
If my experience is anything to go by, you will be in good hands. As I am sure you appreciate, quality doesn't come cheap... but at least I found them to be straight and a pleasure to do business with. |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1954 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Looks like the sort of ropework that I used to be taught when I attended a Pre-sea Naval College? [Reardon Smith NC, Cardiff]
If anyone knows anybody who works full time on a sail training vessel, that might be a source of knot-knowledge?
Or, the local Sea Cadets? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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