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Bengt Axel
Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 269 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:56 am Post subject: Old glass plate negative photos |
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I've inherited a vast number of old (pre First World War) glass plate negative photos. 99% are fairly to very mundane, but there are a few of early cars.
Does anyone know, and can preferably personally recommend, anywhere that can scan and digitize them so that the final photographs can be reproduced please?
I prefer somewhere where I can take them, I live in Cheshire.
Any advise gratefully received, thanks in advance. _________________ "Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back! |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1737 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing that old is entirely mundane, too much history has been lost precisely because someone thought it was mundane and not worth keeping. I've no idea where you might get these digitised, but if you draw a blank here it could be worth speaking to a local museum or similar, they might know someone. |
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Bengt Axel
Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 269 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Bitumen Boy wrote: | Nothing that old is entirely mundane, too much history has been lost precisely because someone thought it was mundane and not worth keeping. I've no idea where you might get these digitised, but if you draw a blank here it could be worth speaking to a local museum or similar, they might know someone. |
I'm not throwing any of them away, maybe when I retire I'll sort them properly.
Good suggestion about local museums, I hadn't thought of that. Thanks _________________ "Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back! |
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petelang
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 449 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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A friend of mine is a pro photographer and they have some pretty amazing skills for renovating old photos and probably these too.
Take a couple along to a good photographer in your town and ask what the possibilities are. I'm sure they will help, or at least point you towards someone who can because they're in the know about such matters.
I recently had an old photo from late 1800's which was stuck on a board under glass, which was also bonded to the image and damages from water penetrative, but he made a restored image from it. I was astonished at the results.
https://flic.kr/p/2nqgqFb _________________ Daimler Fifteen 1934 (now sold)
Armstrong Siddeley 15 Long 1933
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4121 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Could they not be scanned on a flatbed scanner and then use some free software to reverse the image, if you are anywhere near Nantwich you can try on my scanner.
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2488 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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A flatbed scanner might work, or if you have an old overhead projector you could project them on to a clean wall and take a photograph of them. _________________ 1976 Vauxhall HP Firenza, 1976 Vauxhall Sportshatch (x2), 1986 Audi coupe quattro, 2000 Audi TT |
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roverdriver
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 1210 Location: 100 miles from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:38 am Post subject: |
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I have a flatbed scanner that can scan document as well as film and slides. Unfortunately the illumination for the film, in the upper section of the scanner is just about 35 mm across. I have used it for glass negatives by cutting a mask from black plastic with an opening the same size as the glass. Then I use a white light shining onto the bed of the scanner, through the masked negative.
I have had the scanner for about 10 years now, mostly used for documents and positive images but occasionally for films and slides.
When scanning transparencies the light withing the machine is off. This happens because of the unit's programme, but if a way can be found to extinguish the light in a standard scanner, I am sure that it can be used like mine. _________________ Dane- roverdriver but not a Viking. |
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bjacko
Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Posts: 364 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:13 am Post subject: Glass prints |
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Can they be photographed with a digital camera preferably on a tripod or something steady. I did that with manuals that would not open far enough to put on a scanner. |
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Bengt Axel
Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 269 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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ukdave2002 wrote: | Could they not be scanned on a flatbed scanner and then use some free software to reverse the image, if you are anywhere near Nantwich you can try on my scanner.
Dave |
Hi Dave, I'm tinkering with a flat bed scanner at home now, thanks for the offer. I'll see what I can do
Thanks to everyone else for their hints and suggestions. I promise that when I get some results I will post them here. I know that one of the cars is a 1905 Orleans as I still have the spare wheel and original purchase docs for it! _________________ "Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back! |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
scanners with provision for negatives or slides usually seem to have a mirror arranged to give a light source shining through the neg/slide. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22466 Location: UK
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2488 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:12 am Post subject: |
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I read an article online somewhere about how to scan transparencies on a standard scanner, but I can't find it anywhere now. I was sure I'd bookmarked it, but clearly not. I have a couple of flatbed scanners that are able to scan transparencies, they both have a light unit in the lid to shine through it, but both have holders (and software) designed for either 35mm or slightly larger. I did have one in work that would scan up to A4, but it was lost when the building caught fire and I never thought to rescue it from the skip.
Light boxes are cheap, though - I've seen them in discount shops where they come with a box of letters so you can write "inspirational" messages on them, maybe you could adapt something like that to light up the plate, and then photograph it. _________________ 1976 Vauxhall HP Firenza, 1976 Vauxhall Sportshatch (x2), 1986 Audi coupe quattro, 2000 Audi TT |
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Bengt Axel
Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 269 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:48 am Post subject: |
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MikeEdwards wrote: | I read an article online somewhere about how to scan transparencies on a standard scanner, but I can't find it anywhere now. I was sure I'd bookmarked it, but clearly not. I have a couple of flatbed scanners that are able to scan transparencies, they both have a light unit in the lid to shine through it, but both have holders (and software) designed for either 35mm or slightly larger. I did have one in work that would scan up to A4, but it was lost when the building caught fire and I never thought to rescue it from the skip.
Light boxes are cheap, though - I've seen them in discount shops where they come with a box of letters so you can write "inspirational" messages on them, maybe you could adapt something like that to light up the plate, and then photograph it. |
Trying to get light through them has been an issue, so I'll track down a light box. I can always flog it on eBay if it doesn't work. Thanks. _________________ "Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back! |
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MVPeters
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 822 Location: Northern MA, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Bengt
Try calling the London Transport Museum. It has done a lot of work with glass plate negatives & may be able to suggest some resources.
https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/contact _________________ Mike - MVPeters at comcast.net
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1776 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:25 am Post subject: |
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If all else fails, I have an A4-size lightbox which I can offer on loan. I'm in Nottinghamshire which I suppose is not too far away, but I can get it to a friend in Buxton, which is even nearer!
This is a glass negative which I photographed using the box - you have to be careful to get the camera square-on but it's not too difficult.
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