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Ray White
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 Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:05 pm Post subject: Aston Martin DB5 |
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I wonder what the forum thinks about this.?
Take a look at the photos; they show the car warts and all...
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lots/r0004-1964-aston-martin-db5-project/1285908
There is no shortage of immaculately presented Astons and I fully expect this unrestored example to get the full treatment.
I have been wondering, however, if there will be any bidders who can see the attraction of simply repairing and servicing this DB5 and actually using it rather than having it preserved in aspic as part of yet another "collection".?
The car does require quite a bit of work. I notice that the distributor is missing and the cooling system is incomplete.
I also noticed that the instrument binnacle control knob for the optional "selectaride" shock absorbers is missing. There are no doubt other horrors awaiting the restorers.
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Rick
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:13 am Post subject: |
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If it could be preserved and restored beneath the skin without affecting the upper surfaces too much, then that'd be my choice, there are a few biffs around the body (eg front corner) that would need straightening and I do wonder what the structure is like beneath the outer panelling ... I'd look at getting the interior spruced up too as it lets things down IMO.
Let us know when you get it back home Ray 
RJ
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Minxy
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Rick wrote: | If it could be preserved and restored beneath the skin without affecting the upper surfaces too much, then that'd be my choice, there are a few biffs around the body (eg front corner) that would need straightening and I do wonder what the structure is like beneath the outer panelling ... I'd look at getting the interior spruced up too as it lets things down IMO.
Let us know when you get it back home Ray
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Exactly what I was going to type Rick but you beat me to it.
A mechanical overhaul and a bloody good clean is all it needs in my opinion. Alas I suspect it will end in the hands of someone with a fat cheque book.
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Ray White
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I would love to take this one home.! It shows it's age and history but is not too far gone. Can you imagine having a tatty Aston Martin DB5? It would be a great car to take out for a blast and not worry about scratching it.
I saw a DB6 in unrestored condition sell at Mathewson's auction (Bangers & Cash. There was a great deal of interest in it precisely because of it's condition. It sold for @ £200,000. +
This is a more attractive (in my opinion) DB5 so will probably go for £300K+ ?- I don't know.
I suppose nostalgia has something to do with it. My Dad used to look after a DB5 for a friend. I remember It looked best under a street lamp outside our Woking home - 'The Old Cottage'. It had been raining that night and the car glistened like it was covered in diamonds! When I opened the driver's door the interior was bathed in a subtle blue light. Sitting behind the wheel you thought this was the car to have. Start her up and you KNEW this was the one!
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badhuis
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:54 am Post subject: |
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This DB5 is on the edge of needing a full restoration. It would need it if it would stay in rainy Europe. The steel is rusted to paper thin in places so if you were using the car in humid weather it will worsen still. However in a nice dry place on this earth I would not hesitate to use it. Feed the leather first of course etc etc.
Eleven years ago, I had the pleasure to work on a DB4 very similar like this (also had the faired in headlamps). To fit electric power steering, electric door windows, and an overhaul of the engine (new pistons and head refurbished). It was not easy to tune the carburettors and ignition as the engine was very prone to run on.
Loved the car though. Was good to see that it behind the beautiful curves it is very simple. Take off the door cards and apart from the ali outer skin you see straight edged metal everywhere.
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Ray White
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Interestingly, although the DB5 has become the car synonymous with OO7, it was an Aston Martin DB4 (series 5) that featured in the first James Bond film.
There was a special Series Vantage model DB4 with just 40 cars made.
Restoration probably IS the sensible way to go.
Here are some experts having fun for a living...
https://www.astonengineering.co.uk/projects/aston-martin-db4-series-5-restoration/ |
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Ray White
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| Rick wrote: | Maybe I'll set up a Go Fund Me page
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How does that work then? |
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Rich5ltr
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| The issue with doing an oily rag on this is that one doesn't know how poor the engine is. ANd, once you've paid £50k for the engine and gearbox to be rebuilt and say another £20-£30k on suspension, brakes, steering etc. you're beginning to approach a £100k spend. Then consider that although the body shell is aluminum the door pillars, cills and inner body are steel and almost certainly rusted to bits. Stripping it to repair the body is the only way and then you may as well retrim it hence why these cars get a full restoration. |
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Ray White
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| Rich5ltr wrote: | | The issue with doing an oily rag on this is that one doesn't know how poor the engine is. ANd, once you've paid £50k for the engine and gearbox to be rebuilt and say another £20-£30k on suspension, brakes, steering etc. you're beginning to approach a £100k spend. Then consider that although the body shell is aluminum the door pillars, cills and inner body are steel and almost certainly rusted to bits. Stripping it to repair the body is the only way and then you may as well retrim it hence why these cars get a full restoration. |
Good to see you back, Rich. 
I would think twice about spending a fortune on restoration. If I were to squander my pension on buying this particular DB5 I believe I could get it into a usable condition and just enjoy it "rough and ready".
I recall my Dad spent a lot of time on one of these old Astons many years ago; he was surprised at just how agricultural they were considering all the hype.
There would be little chance of any significant depreciation as the demand for these cars is likely to remain high and as they are built like the proverbial brick out house it would stay basically the same.
No doubt I would eventually tire of the critics and move it on to be restored... but at present my time (and money) is being taken up with a much more humble rebuild...  |
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