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Some Common Sense in EVs at Last
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Penman



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting old picture here.

https://tinyurl.com/Electric-vehicle-charging
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
Interesting old picture here.

https://tinyurl.com/Electric-vehicle-charging



Do you know what vehicles they are?

Baker perhaps?

I would think it is American.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't fidn the original FB page but I did an image search and then found a page of USA Today showing this:-

"Image shows battery-powered trucks in London
The image was taken in London during the later years of World War I on July 11, 1917, according to Getty Images.

The vehicles aren't cars but lorries – or trucks in American English – owned by the Midland Railway Company. They were being refueled in the St. Pancras Goods Depot.

The exact fuel isn't specified in the image's caption, but spokesperson Jasmine Rodgers of the U.K.'s National Railway Museum confirmed to USA TODAY it was electric.

"Electric vehicles were quite the thing in the first two decades of the twentieth century. The lorries in the photograph are being charged from the mains, but battery vehicles were popular too," she wrote in an email.

Fact check: Posts falsely claim 95% of energy for charging electric cars comes from coal

The captions also don't specify the exact make of the lorries but considering images of other Midland Railway vehicles from that time period, Rodger said they were "made by the Edison company, Lansden and the General Vehicle Company (which was part of General Electric)."

The term Edison Accumulators can be seen emblazoned on one truck to the image's lefthand side, indicating these vehicles were likely outfitted with a type of nickel-iron battery initially patented by Swedish engineer Ernst Waldemar Jungner, and later refined by American inventor Thomas Edison.

"I think these electric vehicles probably had a top speed of about 25 mph," Rodgers said. "Like Amazon today, they would have been used for deliveries and collections in London." ".
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hydrogen is nice for efficient storage and long range but is not efficient if you can use electricity directly. I think we just need to generate more electricity so that we don't need to worry about the inefficiency of using hydrogen.

Wind and solar are all very well but nuclear is the best answer. If you use thorium as your reactor fuel then the waste products are a much more manageable 300 years instead of the many thousands of years for uranium reactors. Thorium is also a much more abundant element.

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