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Brewster
Joined: 02 Sep 2022 Posts: 26
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:44 pm Post subject: Another Humber issue - mystery leak! |
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I've still not managed to get the Humber out of the weather yet so it's been sitting for weeks covered in rain. When I was having a feel about in the boot, I noticed the underside of the rear offside wing was soaking wet. There's an aerial on the wing which some kind person had snapped off in the past but I'd covered that up with the greasy tape (see previous message) so I didn't think it was getting in there.
Would anyone know how water ends up accumulating on the underside of the wing? Is it coming in the rear windscreen seal or something? Along the chrome strip on the top of the wing?
Operation Dry Humber is due to swing into action this weekend, Christmas not withstanding, so this will hopefully be resolved once I have it under cover. |
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Brewster
Joined: 02 Sep 2022 Posts: 26
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Someone elsewhere has suggested condensation. Does that seem likely? |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6330 Location: Derby
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt it is condensation. Water gets in. You can try and find the point of entry but may never establish exactly where. |
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BigJohn
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 954 Location: Wem, Shropshire
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Is it in the boot, or a wet patch between the wing and the tyre, if the latter it could be a Tom Cat........... _________________ 1974 Mk1 Escort. |
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Brewster
Joined: 02 Sep 2022 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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It’s on the underside of the wing that you can feel from inside the boot, not within the wheel well. |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7121 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Shut yourself in the boot with a torch and get someone to apply a hose to the rear windscreen and all lower points. Or have them pour buckets of water if no hose.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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MVPeters
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 822 Location: Northern MA, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Brewster
Try trapping a 10/- note at various points between the trunk lid & the rubber seal. It should not be too easy to pull out. Adjust the catch or hinges. _________________ Mike - MVPeters at comcast.net
2002 MINI Cooper 'S' |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I know we are talking about older cars and how to find faults in them, BUT I very much doubt that anyone has kept a 10/- note since 1970.
And of course there are now no paper notes in circulation and perhaps the plastic ones wouldn't perform the same as paper ones. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6330 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Penman wrote: | I know we are talking about older cars and how to find faults in them, BUT I very much doubt that anyone has kept a 10/- note since 1970.
And of course there are now no paper notes in circulation and perhaps the plastic ones wouldn't perform the same as paper ones. |
I have. I also have an unused £1 note.
As a youngster I found some old white five pound notes in a bronze statue that formerly belonged to my Granny. I showed my Mum and Dad and they confiscated the notes; ostensibly to get them changed at the Bank. That was the last I heard about it. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6330 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Talking about cars getting wet where they shouldn't, there is one symptom that no P38 owner wants to find and that is a wet carpet under the dash. It usually means that the 'O' rings have failed on the heater matrix pipes. It is generally regarded as the worst job on a Range Rover as the entire dash has to come out...and that is just for starters.
I have read how some owners have resorted to cutting away the plastic covers etc.,, |
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Brewster
Joined: 02 Sep 2022 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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peter scott wrote: | Shut yourself in the boot with a torch and get someone to apply a hose to the rear windscreen and all lower points. Or have them pour buckets of water if no hose.
Peter |
It's probably important that someone with experience of old cars is the one pouring the water so I'll lock the wife in the boot with the torch instead. Just hope I remember to let her out when I'm finished or there might be no Christmas dinner. |
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CWhaley1
Joined: 13 Jul 2016 Posts: 61 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Did you ever resolve this? I ask only as I have a Singer Gazelle (same family, which is why I clicked on the thread).
I too found water on the underside and outside of the (offside) rear wing. The underside of the boot lid was also wet.
I had installed a new boot seal which I know forms a very good seal around the boot -- absolutely no water gets in past this. The rear screen leaks ever so slightly and I wonder if this was the source of moisture.
I ended up buying an expensive car cover (£300!!) which I'm still reeling about. However, the car is bone dry even on the wettest days and it's clearly far better than the covers I had before. I also put silica gel beads in old socks hanging around the car. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6330 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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CWhaley1 wrote: | I also put silica gel beads in old socks hanging around the car. |
That's a novel idea! I was once advised by a science teacher that the way to prevent corrosion from taking hold is to place a bag of magnesium scrap in the boot. Something to do with attracting "ions" apparently... |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1955 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Silica gel?
Might be worth saving those little sachets of the stuff, found in the packaging of most electrical goods these days?
Captain Tolley's Creeping crack cure [AKA penetrating sealant....if the bots allow this?} is useful for assisting window rubbers to make a seal against watter.....But it does have to be applied on a regular basis[IE, not once in a lifetime!]..Can also make a bit of a mess if overdone. _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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CWhaley1
Joined: 13 Jul 2016 Posts: 61 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Yes I bought 20kg of silica gel in a tub from eBay. Although little water go in the car past the seals anyway, it's stopped any fogging on the inside screen and any moisture kept off metals is a good thing!
I went for a Butyl screen seal. It remains permanently flexible and watertight -- just have to ensure the screen and existing rubber is absolutely free of dirt. Eventually I'll replace the seal around the rear screen, but time and cost is putting it off at the moment. I'll look into the creeping crack repair paste! Might be useful for areas where it's not so easy to apply a channel of sealant.
I remember magnesium strips at school, but only when we set them on fire to produce a bright light! Remember having it burnt onto my retina for weeks.... |
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