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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:27 pm Post subject: Hyundai |
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I know there won't be many of us using these but can I ask you all to resist this stupid change to the pronunciation.
It has been done because the Americans say HunDay.
Why should we follow a nation who can't spell colour etc and think that there is a metal called aluminum? _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2479 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Hyundai |
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Penman wrote: | and think that there is a metal called aluminum? |
It was called "aluminum" very early on by Humphrey Davy, and changed a bit later to make it sound better to us. They're just using the original name.
I started objecting to these new pronunciations when "Nestle" decided they were going to call it "Nest-lay", and I haven't really changed my mind. _________________ 1976 Vauxhall HP Firenza, 1976 Vauxhall Sportshatch (x2), 1986 Audi coupe quattro, 2000 Audi TT |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6341 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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If there is one word that I wish the Yanks would adopt, it is tyre. They insist on using the spelling 'tire'...which, to me, means something completely different.
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Mike didn't it always have an S on the end as Nestles or was it as you spelt it and the S was added orally as a possessive. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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Crashbox
Joined: 30 Apr 2021 Posts: 140
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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I watched a episode of Vice Grip ('merican for mole grip) Garage on YouTube the other day, and Derek, who's channel it is and is very definitely American, actually pronounced the metal as aluminium. I almost fell off my chair. _________________ 1989 2CV
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6341 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Most Americans will say "cotter" where we will say "cotter pin". To Americans a cotter pin is the split pin.
It can get confusing. Many a Yank will think a hood is the bonnet and what we call a "bonnet" is a "top".
My wife got confused with the American term "fender"... which is our "wing". She thought a fender was a bumper ... which is understandable.
Our exhaust manifold is their "header"...and so it goes on. |
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Keith D
Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Posts: 1131 Location: Upper Swan, Western Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:45 am Post subject: |
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You Brit's have 'wings' which are not wings. The Yank's have 'fenders', which they are not supposed to be. (Fending off other cars) We have 'guards', short for mudguards - which they are!
You have 'silencers' which obviously is wrong, because you can still hear the exhaust noise. The Yanks and us have 'mufflers', which actually and accurately muffle the exhaust noise.
Despite all the different names used in different countries, we all still enjoy our hobby!
Keith _________________ 1926 Chrysler 60 tourer
1932 Austin Seven RN long wheelbase box sedan
1950 Austin A40 tourer
1999 BMW Z3
Its weird being the same age as old people.
You are either part of the problem or part of the solution |
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bjacko
Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Posts: 364 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:16 am Post subject: Pronunciation |
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Nestle is a Swiss company from an area where their language is French. The last e of the name used to have an acute accent on it which means Nestley is the correct pronunciation. Ask the Chinese how the pronounce Rover, they cannot because v doesn't exist in their language, hence the cars they produce which are rovers have a different name, which I forget.
We have the same anomalies as mentioned above within the aircraft industry with Undercarriage called Landing Gear, some fasteners have differnent names too. Their pounds and gallons are different quantities to Imperial measurements and have caused more than one aircraft, or airplane as they call them, to run out of fuel. They also have different names for fuel.
Parafin is Kerosene, in UK it is Avtur or higher octane is Avtag in US they are JP4 and JP7 and higher plus other names.
A lot of small parts have different names too.
Can't remember too many as it is 30 years since I retired! _________________ 1938 Morris 8 Ser II Coupe Utility (Pickup)
1985 Rover SD1 VDP |
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2479 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Penman wrote: | Mike didn't it always have an S on the end as Nestles or was it as you spelt it and the S was added orally as a possessive. |
I don't remember it actually having one, but now I think about it I do recall referring to something as "Nestle's chocolate" or whatever.
I don't dispute the thought that these companies are probably just trying to get their company name pronounced correctly, and I imagine the Hyundai one is as close to the original Korean as they figure a westerner could cope with, I just think it's a bit "off" to suddenly turn up 30 years later and start it, now we're all used to saying it a different way. Ikea, Skoda, they're all at it.
(Slightly O/T, but I have a mate who always used to pronounce Witter - as in the towbars - with a leading "V" in a German style, despite the company being founded by a bloke called Colin in Chester.)
People who use the "proper" pronunciation in general conversation get on my nerves a bit - a bit like those who add the "uh" on the end of Porsche, even though they're technically correct. And yes, I know they probably weren't far behind Nestle (or maybe in front) at trying to ram this whole "say my name correctly please" down our throats. _________________ 1976 Vauxhall HP Firenza, 1976 Vauxhall Sportshatch (x2), 1986 Audi coupe quattro, 2000 Audi TT |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Mike;
Did your mate say Folksvagn? _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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petelang
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 448 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:18 am Post subject: |
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I had a long work relationship with an Indian mechanic, very skilled chap, could fix anything, except he couldn't pronounce "Valve" kept calling them Walves. We could never get our heads around why he could pronounce the second V but not the first. We used to give him so much grief over it. _________________ Daimler Fifteen 1934 (now sold)
Armstrong Siddeley 15 Long 1933
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1956 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Alldays & Onions, anyone?
I believe, should be pronounced as ''O'nions?''
Which makes me think that ex-President Obama had in fact , got a good old Irish surname?
Renno, instead of Renolt?
I agree about the idea that there are folk out there who are, ''quite up themselves'' with pronunciation of various car names. _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Inglewood
Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 183 Location: Stone, Staffordshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I worked in the USA for s short time, 2 words that foxed the Americans were:
'Chassis' - they just could not say it! (It is a frame in the US).
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'Vehicle' - they say 'vey-ick-le' |
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Inglewood
Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 183 Location: Stone, Staffordshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I worked in the USA for s short time, 2 words that foxed the Americans were:
'Chassis' - they just could not say it! (It is a frame in the US).
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'Vehicle' - they say 'vey-ick-le' |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6341 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Inglewood wrote: | I worked in the USA for s short time, 2 words that foxed the Americans were:
'Chassis' - they just could not say it! (It is a frame in the US).
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'Vehicle' - they say 'vey-ick-le' |
They also don't differentiate between "their" and "there".
The worst offenders don't know the difference between "break" and "brake".
We still love 'em though! |
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