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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4114 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:33 am Post subject: 3ph Bench drill & Grinder FOC |
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Hi
These are FOC for anyone who can collect from Nantwich within the next week, otherwise they are going in the skip!
No good to me as I don't have 3ph, as such I can't test them
3ph pillar drill
3ph Grinder
Contact me:
d a v e l aw t o n 1 0 0 at msn.com. |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I love the pillar drill's reference to lubrication by a brand called Gargoyle.
If your mention of 3 phase applies to both, who knew that B & D did 3 phase? Surely most of us thought they "only" did DIY home use use tools. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4114 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Penman wrote: | I love the pillar drill's reference to lubrication by a brand called Gargoyle.
If your mention of 3 phase applies to both, who knew that B & D did 3 phase? Surely most of us thought they "only" did DIY home use use tools. |
Your post made me double check the grinder, it is indeed a B&D UK made 3ph device.
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:14 am Post subject: |
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The older Black & Decker stuff is perfectly servicable if it hasn't been abused and worn out. I have a drill that belonged to my grandfather and, although it appears small and underpowered by today's standards, I find it does a better job of drilling steel than a modern mains drill! The secret, I think, is that the gearing is quite low compared to modern kit which means the bit isn't running at too high a speed, so it can "bite into" the work rather than just skating over the surface and making a noise... |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:22 am Post subject: |
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B B. It may also be that the older ones didn't have a hammer function. Even when you don't have the hammer in operation the chuck is still able to "float back and forth, this is why modern drills don't work well in lathe beds like the older ones did with the suitable accessories. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Penman wrote: | B B. It may also be that the older ones didn't have a hammer function. Even when you don't have the hammer in operation the chuck is still able to "float back and forth, this is why modern drills don't work well in lathe beds like the older ones did with the suitable accessories. |
Penman: You may well be on to something there! Try finding a modern power drill without some sort of hammer function, they all have it even if it doesn't work very well. I have an old Bosch drill that Dad got off the tiger tokens (!) that still works even though it's about as old as I am and similarly well worn... Had it apart a few times to fit new flex and I was surprised by how simple / crude the hammer mechanism is, though it works pretty well. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6337 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Bitumen Boy wrote: | The older Black & Decker stuff is perfectly servicable if it hasn't been abused and worn out. I have a drill that belonged to my grandfather and, although it appears small and underpowered by today's standards, I find it does a better job of drilling steel than a modern mains drill! The secret, I think, is that the gearing is quite low compared to modern kit which means the bit isn't running at too high a speed, so it can "bite into" the work rather than just skating over the surface and making a noise... |
This is my ancient and well used B&D drill which like you say is perfectly serviceable albeit small and relatively low powered. It is my "go to" tool when my other more powerful drill is too big to get into a tight spot.
How about that for "patina"? |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | Bitumen Boy wrote: | The older Black & Decker stuff is perfectly servicable if it hasn't been abused and worn out. I have a drill that belonged to my grandfather and, although it appears small and underpowered by today's standards, I find it does a better job of drilling steel than a modern mains drill! The secret, I think, is that the gearing is quite low compared to modern kit which means the bit isn't running at too high a speed, so it can "bite into" the work rather than just skating over the surface and making a noise... |
This is my ancient and well used B&D drill which like you say is perfectly serviceable albeit small and relatively low powered. It is my "go to" tool when my other more powerful drill is too big to get into a tight spot.
How about that for "patina"? |
Now that IS an old one, Ray! I can well believe its usefulness in a tight spot given how short in length it appears to be; I'm assuming that's a pretty standard biscuit tin it's in? |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6337 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Yes it is just an ordinary biscuit tin. The drill spent many years attached to a home made pillar stand. Originally it belonged to my Father in Law who used it for clock repairs. What I also like is there is no plastic.
They just don't make stuff like it now! |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3828 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:55 am Post subject: |
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No plastic...that's something to tell the young generation!! _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4114 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Rootes75 wrote: | No plastic...that's something to tell the young generation!! | whilst explaining what that funny angled thing in the chuck is for! |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4765 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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always taped my chuck key to the flex, far enough down so that I could operate it properly. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6337 Location: Derby
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Penman wrote: | always taped my chuck key to the flex, far enough down so that I could operate it properly. |
There is a second chuck key taped to the flex (not in picture). |
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