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Ray White
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Rootes75
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Sounds like a 'come and get me' estimate to me...
I think it will end quite a bit higher than that.
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Ray White
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| Rootes75 wrote: | Sounds like a 'come and get me' estimate to me...
I think it will end quite a bit higher than that. |
You may well be right...although the restoration is now getting on for 30 years old, so it may not look quite as pristine close up............which would be just fine by me.
I had never considered buying a Rolls Royce but this one is nice; not too big and would probably fit in my garage!!
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ukdave2002
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| Pre 70's vehicle prices have certainly dropped significantly in the last coupe of years, but I'd be surprised as if its as much as the guide price suggests |
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mikeC
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My initial reaction was that it will go for twice that sort of figure, but a little research produced a nice 20/25 sports saloon at Vintage & Prestige (not the cheapest dealer in town!) for ?32,000...so maybe...?
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Rootes75
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When I was a lad my Grandfather owned a very nice Rolls-Royce, early twenties with a nicely styled Mulliner body.
Long story short, they got quite friendly with a chap in the town and he offered to buy the car. They agreed and for some reason I do not know why but they agreed that he could pay in 3 instalments....
Well, he gave them the first instalment, and drove the car off and before they knew it he'd shipped it out to Italy and they never saw another penny. I recall they even took him to court over it and never saw anything from it...
Such a shame as only a year or two ago I found that the car not only survived but had been repatriated.
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Ray White
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| Rootes75 wrote: | When I was a lad my Grandfather owned a very nice Rolls-Royce, early twenties with a nicely styled Mulliner body.
Long story short, they got quite friendly with a chap in the town and he offered to buy the car. They agreed and for some reason I do not know why but they agreed that he could pay in 3 instalments....
Well, he gave them the first instalment, and drove the car off and before they knew it he'd shipped it out to Italy and they never saw another penny. I recall they even took him to court over it and never saw anything from it...
Such a shame as only a year or two ago I found that the car not only survived but had been repatriated. |
That is a salient lesson for anyone thinking they might help a purchaser with finance.
The only thing that attracted me to this car was the two door coupe styling and it's general condition; the owner having spent a considerable sum to get it right. The addition of an overdrive is a big plus.
The fact that it is a Rolls Royce - if anything - goes against it. I actually prefer the more restrained offerings by Bentley but, again, I would find it difficult to justify paying an inflated price; even if I could afford it.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ibh-iizoKzI
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This example sold at a Bonhams auction in America in 2007 for $46,800 which equates to @ 54k GBP today.
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/14802/lot/730/1933-rolls-royce-2025-coupe-chassis-no-glz7/
Even allowing for the drop in Pre War car values, I would put the estimate for the car now on offer at over 30K pounds.
Other Coachbuilders offered very similar designs. This one was built by HJ Mulliner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs2zpnnq4T0
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Ray White
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Sold for over 55,000 pounds.
Which goes to show that the estimate was totally unrealistic.
I would bet it was bought by a Rolls Royce dealer, who will put it out for twice the price.......  |
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Rootes75
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I think you might be right Ray...
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Vintage Fly Guy
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| Ray White wrote: | Sold for over 55,000 pounds.
I would bet it was bought by a Rolls Royce dealer, who will put it out for twice the price....... |
Perhaps that should be amended to "who will try to put it out for twice the price"?
As the current trend in classic car prices appears to show, the times they are a changing.  |
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Ray White
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| Dealers will do what dealers always do.... put their mark up ahead of everything else.! |
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Vintage Fly Guy
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I'm sure the current uncertainty over the economy (both UK and global) is also a pretty significant factor affecting the classic car market, particularly the higher end stuff. |
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bjacko
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As an aside I had two early 1930's Rolls Royces at my wedding!
My father's boss bought a brand new RR in the 1970's but it had to keep going back to Crewe for repair, so he bought a second one so he would always have one available, but it didn't work because they both finished up at Crewe for repairs at the same time! He finished up with two BMWs a 7 series and a 5 series unfortunately the first day he took the 5 series into Manchester , where is office was located, some clown smashed into him and wrote it off with less than 50 miles on the clock. The BMWs never gave him any problems and he bought another for his wife.
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mikeC
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| peter scott wrote: | Pre-war cars are losing their attraction for the big spenders.
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Not just the big spenders; I've noticed a number of Vintage cars, which used to go for ?20k plus not so long ago, which have sold recently for well under ?10k (early Twenties Delage, Riley Nine Monaco, Alvis 12/50 and Silver Eagle, etc). The Austin Seven seems to be the only one bucking the trend; an Austin Ruby recently went for more than the Riley Monaco - that would have been unheard of only a couple of years ago.
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