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alastairq
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Ray White
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Thankyou for posting that, Alastair.
I didn't realise that a restoration to standard spec ever required DVLA notification in the first place ...unless it was for a fresh registration. ??
The relaxation on modified vehicles has sadly come too late for the likes of Suffolk Jaguars but will be good news for kit car and 'special' builders going forward.
Does this mean more restorable classics being turned into hot rods? |
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Rootes75
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The article just popped up on my news feed, certainly good news for specials builders.
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alastairq
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No mention of the DVSA, I note?
[With regards to the current MoT age-related exemption?]
That I think still has the rules not exempting 'modified' vehicles?
I also think it has better implications for those with the money to waste on complete, new, re-shells?
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Ray White
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| alastairq wrote: | No mention of the DVSA, I note?
[With regards to the current MoT age-related exemption?]
That I think still has the rules not exempting 'modified' vehicles?
I also think it has better implications for those with the money to waste on complete, new, re-shells? |
Yes. A bit odd there was no mention of the DVSA. I think they have similar powers to Police, don't they?
I know if you are pulled up by the Bill and don't have a current M.O.T. certificate they can fine you up to 1000 GBP. I assume the DVSA can do the same if the mood takes them?.
Personally, I wish they had scrapped SORN.
The new rules presumably mean that cars such as this E Type Jaguar imported from the U.S.A. can now be registered without inspection?
https://www.handh.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-1966-jaguar-e-type-series-1-42-litre-22/?lot=62395&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=552&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=1&g=1
What with no M.O.T. requirement let us hope the RHD conversion has been done safely. |
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alastairq
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| Quote: | | Yes. A bit odd there was no mention of the DVSA. I think they have similar powers to Police, don't they? |
DVSA have nowt to do with vehicle/driver licensing.
They set & apply the standards required for driving tests, and vehicle / component safety. Also validating qualified instructors in all aspects of 'driving!'
The DVSA has the power to compel a vehicle to be removed from the road, or repaired, or a lot of other things. They are the 'qualified' personnel [which the Police really are not!]. The DVSA will also provide the 'expert' witnesses for Court proceedings, both with regards to vehicle condition, and with regards to driving standards.
They are the body who decided that 40-plus years old vehicles can be exempted from annual MoT testing [like a lot of other types of vehicle...about which I hear no mention on these pages?]
Not having a 'current' MoT certificate isn't necessarily contrary to the Law.
For example, there is the proviso that one is travelling to, or , from, a pre-booked MoT test.
The Law also allows for 'reasonable' diversions when going to, & from, a pre-booked MoT test.
The same rules apply prior to registration of a vehicle. One doesn't need a registration number to drive on the public roads, providing, as above, or, to, or from, a public weighbridge.
Thus, one can, quite lawfully, purchase a vehicle in, say London [why one would want to do that, I fail to comprehend?]...which doesn't have a current MoT.....and drive the vehicle to Newcastle.
providing one pre-books an MoT test in Newcastle....and one correctly insures the vehicle. Said vehicle must be roadworthy, and comply with the Law regarding that aspect, as well as C&U regulations.
If one is not sure whether one can inspect & decide if a vehicle is roadworthy, or not...then perhaps it's time to go enrol on a college course or two? Or, take up knitting?
The important point also being, that one isn't compelled to book said MoT test at the nearest convenient testing establishment. [Testing slots may not be available, etc etc.]
| Quote: | | Personally, I wish they had scrapped SORN. |
Why?
SORN is probably the easiest of processes to undertake. it can be done online.
SORN doesn't affect having insurance.....
I have sorned my daily, online, got my overpaid tax back a fortnight later, then, in that same month, taxed the vehicle once more.....as it was suddenly required for transport purposes.
SORN in itself aids enforcement, which must be a good thing?
It doesn't affect the sale/transfer of ownership, or registered keeper, one jot!
The DVLA even 'allow' a short period of time during a vehicle transfer, to allow the new owner a chance to get their act together and decide whether to tax, or SORN, the vehicle.
| Quote: | | The new rules presumably mean that cars such as this E Type Jaguar imported from the U.S.A. can now be registered without inspection? |
I don't see an mention of changes to the process of registering a previously unregistered vehicle, in the changes?
The 'inspection' is merely conducted [often by a Police Officer, because they happen to be around?]..to see whether the vehicle is what it is purported to be. IE, its origins, etc.
this is the monet when one finds one gets a Q plate....as the vehicle in question is of ''indeterminate origin!'' In other words, bits from this , that, or the other , different, vehicles, as an example...so no definite identity can be attributed.
I believe one then has to submit to an MoT test? If an import?
Anyhow, whether or not the RHD conversion has been done properly or not, lies with the driver....If it is unsafe, or not?
Which begs the question for me, how many of those multifarious vehicles coming the other way, are just as potentially, ''unsafe?''
If in the market to buy such a beast, then....''buyer beware'' has to apply!
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Ray White
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I knew about the proviso for booking an M.O.T.
What I didn't know is that the DVLA should have been notified if a car is being restored/ repaired unless it is for a new registration number.
I don't see the use of 'heritage' shells being wrong. My neighbour had a derelict MGB which was too far gone to restore so he got himself a new shell and transferred everything over to it. The end result was a really nice MGB on the road instead of it just rotting away in the garden. |
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Penman
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MikeEdwards
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Ray White wrote: | I didn't realise that a restoration to standard spec ever required DVLA notification in the first place ...unless it was for a fresh registration. ??
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Nor me, and I don't ever recall hearing about it anywhere.
There is talk on another forum that there was a proposal for this to be a requirement, so maybe they're just talking about that.
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