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consul 57



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:39 pm    Post subject: no anti freeze Reply with quote

has anyone noticed on these tv car repair progs that there seems to be a lot of cars running around without anti freeze and not had any for ages?
time & time again we see the mechanics take off the bottom hose to be met with rusty water and not blueish or redish water.
the flipping bangers merc recently had a lot of the block waterways solid with crud, i know years ago my uncle would drain the car in winter at night then refill it in the morning as anti freeze was expensive but today it is not that dear and with ally headed engines a must for anti reaction prohibition.
you do wonder what else these cars are short of, engine, gearbox & axle oil i wonder.
maybe people just go by the shiny paintwork nowadays!
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may have mentioned this before ...but the thing that seems to be a consistent feature of these programmes is the way in which cars which may have sat idle for many years are encouraged to run at any cost. No thought seems to be paid to the internals of the engine that will have suffered from years of condensation and rust. They never show the oil being changed let alone coolant and antifreeze.!

It beggars belief but - as an aside - the previous owner of my MG TC had the engine running with the original 1960s oil filter still fitted. Shocked
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alastairq



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It beggars belief but - as an aside - the previous owner of my MG TC had the engine running with the original 1960s oil filter still fitted. Shocked


Aaaah, but, was the filter still OK?

Did the engine subsequently fall apart as a result?

Nothing better than an oil change & filter wipe, for many a cash strapped driver...??
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alastairq wrote:
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It beggars belief but - as an aside - the previous owner of my MG TC had the engine running with the original 1960s oil filter still fitted. Shocked


Aaaah, but, was the filter still OK?

Did the engine subsequently fall apart as a result?

Nothing better than an oil change & filter wipe, for many a cash strapped driver...??


The filter was like the sump; solid with sludge. The big end and main journals were badly scored, as were the bores. There was however good oil pressure but that was only because he had used gear oil. Etc etc. All the hallmarks of a badly rebuilt engine. I didn't think people did that to classic MGs. How wrong was I?

I should have spent longer going over the engine rather than chatting to the old boy about the way he had lost his farm to the Derwent Water reservoir. Admittedly, he did his best to put me off... but I was wearing my best rose tinted glasses; the sun was shining and all was well with the World.

I trusted the old guy... and it cost me dear.

Needless to say, I will be more careful next time. Until the next time. Surprised
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consul 57



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my brother in law bought a 45,000 mile astra, mk2 i think at auction, he realised it needed an oil change, as it looked like it had not had one in the previous 40,000 miles!
as soon as he did that the engine gave way, could not take new oil i guess
lol.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

consul 57 wrote:
my brother in law bought a 45,000 mile astra, mk2 i think at auction, he realised it needed an oil change, as it looked like it had not had one in the previous 40,000 miles!
as soon as he did that the engine gave way, could not take new oil i guess
lol.


We once had a Mk1 Astra 1300s which in my humble opinion was one of the best small/medium sized cars Vauxhall ever made. I thought I would treat it to an oil change and filled her up with Castrol GTX. The engine immediately developed a rattle. I changed the oil back to the (much cheaper) Duckhams 20/50 and it was fine again!

I suppose the moral of the story is: stick with what you know works and you won't go far wrong. Wink
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V8 Nutter



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where I grew up in the 1950's was close to a timber merchants garage, where he kept repaired and serviced all his vehicles. In the winter every evening the radiators would be drained, and refilled the next morning, he had two Unipower timber tractors, a GMC 6x6 with a fifth wheel and a long timber trailer and usually a couple of other ex WD vehicles, usually Canadian Ford or Chevrolet. After starting they would be allowed to tick over for about 15 minutes. The diesel and petrol fumes would drift into our house, if all the modern theories are correct I should have died from respiratory illness years ago or my brain should have been destroyed by lead poisoning from the leaded petrol fumes. On very cold days when starting the Gardner diesels in the Unipowers one driver would hold a piece of burning newspaper soaked in diesel over the air intake while another driver pressed the starter, they would usually start in a huge cloud of diesel smoke
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

V8 Nutter wrote:
Where I grew up in the 1950's was close to a timber merchants garage, where he kept repaired and serviced all his vehicles. In the winter every evening the radiators would be drained, and refilled the next morning, he had two Unipower timber tractors, a GMC 6x6 with a fifth wheel and a long timber trailer and usually a couple of other ex WD vehicles, usually Canadian Ford or Chevrolet. After starting they would be allowed to tick over for about 15 minutes. The diesel and petrol fumes would drift into our house, if all the modern theories are correct I should have died from respiratory illness years ago or my brain should have been destroyed by lead poisoning from the leaded petrol fumes. On very cold days when starting the Gardner diesels in the Unipowers one driver would hold a piece of burning newspaper soaked in diesel over the air intake while another driver pressed the starter, they would usually start in a huge cloud of diesel smoke



Interesting memories.

I am allergic to Diesel (more so the fuel than the fumes) so I would have been made ill by that character's antics.

When I worked as a delivery driver for a computer and security print company I had a 190 (long wheelbase) petrol Transit; which I enjoyed driving. When it came to replacing the vehicle the management wanted a Diesel for economy reasons. I gave them the choice; either get another petrol van or get another driver. Luckily for me they provided me with another petrol Transit. I couldn't have been happier. Very Happy
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