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Bengt Axel
Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 267 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Peter, its certainly similar, but given the huge number of car makers that were around at that time, not similar enough to pin it down to Mors. Plus, certain aspects of the cylinder heads do not appear to be the same, as far as I can tell from my photo.
I'm told that there are people in the SAHB who can recognise veteran chassis at 100 paces...., so here's hoping and If I get anything I will post it here. _________________ "Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back! |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6319 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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I would be surprised if it is not a Mors. In my opinion everything hinges on whether or not there is a filler in the top of the shouldered radiator. Mors of this date had none.
I can't quite make out if there is something there or not.? |
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D4B
Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Hi All,
My sister sent me this from Newfoundland, can you confirm what car this is? Fantastic isn't it !
This photo is entitled "H.D. Reid's automobile at Cabot Tower, Signal Hill, 1908."
H.D. or Harry Reid as he was known was a man of few words. He was heavily involved in the Reid family railroad business, the "Reid Newfoundland Company," of which he became President in 1917. Together with his father, Robert G. Reid, they brought the first gasoline automobiles to Newfoundland in 1903 much to the ire of other Newfoundlanders. Townsfolk complained the automobiles were noisy and would make their horses skittish.
Harry, in his later years, strived to move the Red Newfoundland Company. from the railroad business to investing in development projects like the pulp & paper mills across Newfoundland. |
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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It looks more like a Napier to me.
Edit: The Canadian Archives reference to a Locomobile relates to Mr Reid's first car in 1903, although they also refer to it as a Thomas Flyer! This photo apparently dates from 1908, by which time Mr Reid has obviously progressed to something bigger! _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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OK; I've checked a bit further, and I am now positive it's a 60hp Napier of 1907-08 period. _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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D4B
Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Mike |
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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mikeC wrote: | OK; I've checked a bit further, and I am now positive it's a 60hp Napier of 1907-08 period. |
Thanks Mike I forwarded your text to my friend at the Archives, so they can adjust their write up.
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22449 Location: UK
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6319 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:24 am Post subject: |
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I would suggest that it isn't Peugeot as they employed a V twin. |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7119 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's an early Peugeot 1912 Légère 330cc 2 cyl.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6319 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, Peter...what I was trying to do is answer Rick's point about the mystery photo in his photos on the main page. I am doubting that the engine he posted is a Peugeot as they used a V twin in their early cars. The first Peugeots had a Daimler narrow V twin then they went onto the type as above. My photo is of an engine from 1905.
Regarding the cars; the rear view is undoubtedly a De Dion Bouton. There are rear leaf springs (only just visible) in addition to the transverse "helper" spring Apart from the cross tube, the drive shafts are just visible.
The other veteran cars are chain drive. They are all, I believe, the same vehicle but it remains a mystery to me. |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7119 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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No problem Ray, I should have looked further back rather than assuming your photo was the mystery object.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7119 Location: Edinburgh
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6319 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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It's certainly very similar...but the Star had a De Dion engine... |
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