Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration.

[Billy]

How many people are getting a little bit sick off paying to display our cars?
I was recently told that because a serious repair to my car was delayed, I would have to pay £5.00 to enter my car after the booking in date had passed.
Can I please point out to any prospective organisers that without our cars you have nothing to show the members of the public.
Should you really charge us as well as them?????
If you have administration cost, then find a sponsor,or some advertisers,or use club funds.
Don't penalise the very people who keep your shows alive by taxing us up to the hilt.
I remember in days gone by, that we actually used to recieve small "tokens of our appreciation" for turning up, not to be told over the phone that it will cost you money because you didn't want to book in, and then not turn up if your parts didn't arrive in time.

There must be some other views out there in "computer space" so lets hear them.
Remember!!!! Rome wasn't built in a day, but it sure as hell collapsed when Ceaser got too greedy.

[Old-Nail]

The only way round this is to form some sort of 'Union' between clubs which can then negotiate on our behalf, after all no cars = no show whatever the organisers say, and they are OUR cars!

[buzzy bee]

Hi

I felt this same way lat year, I was invited to a mini show, and you have to pay between £5 and £10 to get in, then you have to decorate your cars in stupid themes, I don't like this, it does win the club money, but I go to shows to look at cars, not cars dressed up!

I also don't agree with paying over the odds to get in to a show, as a spectator and especially the exibitor, I exibit at few shows now where you have to pay, there are so many free shows. There are a few that I will pay for as they are my favourites, and I know I will get bargains there!

I have stopped going to british mini club show alltogether now.

I was chatting to a bloke that knows of one show in wales where they still give you petrol money to attend, I do not expect this, but I do not expect to pay either!

One other thing that gets up my nose is paying to get in a show, then you get a pressant, like a plate, diary or brass plaque, that more times than not end up in a cuboard or the bin, surely it would be better to stop these gifts and reduce or get rid of the entry charge?

Sorry for ranting, but you really don't want to get me started on this topic!

Cheers

Dave

[old gto]

I`m happy to pay $50.00 to enter the annual Turkey Run at Daytona Speedway. That entry fee includes a goody bag full of stuff, door prize tickets, entry passes, and an hour & a half long video of the event (usually mailed around Christmas). This 4 day event draws over 5000 cars, and you must book your hotels several months in advance.
However, I was appalled, and refused to pay $60.00 to enter a local 2 day show with no door prizes, no videos, and only a couple hundred cars expected.
Mind you, these are not "Judged" shows, and no trophies are given out.

[Scotty]

I will not go to "commercial" car shows that are run for a profit - period! By these I mean companies that specialise in pulling together shows like ours, but they have no interest in the vehicles, only the money.

How these people have the balls to use us - and by that I mean pimping out our vehicles because that's what they are doing, they make money off our "bodies" and it bugs the life out of me - never going to happen with me.

I once considered setting up a "profit sharing" car show scheme where those who turned up would share in any profits left over once the principal costs had been covered - on paper it looked workable, but I never got the time to explore the idea further.

[buzzy bee]

Hi

Sounds like a good idea to me!

I am a beekeeper, and if there are any others on this site, you should know all beeks are fairly tight, or so we are told! Maybe this is why I don't like paying, but on the other hand why should I pay?

He he

Cheers

Dave

[Brian M]

We had a big debate on this subject last year:

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1462

As an organiser of the "commercial" car shows that are run for a profit (Scotty's words) I had to defend my corner against some strong criticism from other members, in spite of the fact that I do not charge entrants for any of my shows.

Have a read of the old thread and I will still come come back to defend some types of show organisers!

[Uncle Joe]

Brian M: I'm glad you pointed out the older thread, it saves me looking for it. My own views havent changed much since then.

Basically, if I, as a driver have to pay, I just dont go. Theres no point in paying to stand around in a field all day....

UJ

[giggles]

A few years ago there was a super weekend show held on the Suffolk Showground, just outside Ipswich. The place would be filled with all sorts of vehicles and would attract large crowds. The show organisers couldn't afford to continue to put on the show because people refussed to pay to enter. It can cost thousands to put on a show, what with having to pay to hire a venue, then pay to hire toilets, the public liabilty insurance, entertainment etc.

We don't mind paying to go to shows and if you don't have to pay to enter, well that means we treat the kids to an extra ice cream or something.

[Uncle Joe]

giggles, let me see if I understand you correctly. If you take you car to a classic car show, you think it is OK to pay to exhibit it?

UJ

[Rick]

My view is that entrants shouldn't have to pay to enter their car, but it is reasonable to charge punters (aka general public) to pay to attend the show, in order to cover the not-inconsiderable costs that must be involved in setting up many shows.

My favourite shows are the more informal types though, usually held on land that doesn't cost a mint to hire

Rick
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[giggles]

[Uncle Joe]

Rick expressed my views almost exactly. I'm happy if the car and driver can be let in free, and everyone else pays. I have been to shows where even ONE passenger is let in free as well, as well as accompanied children.

In some cases we spend both thousands of pounds and hours to restore a vehicle. I cant really see the 'right' in allowing someone else to profit from this.

Its kind of like writing to Mick Jagger and saying "Hey, Mick, now that you and the lads have learned to play some instruments, you can play at my birthday party if you give me a tenner and pay your own travel expenses!"

UJ

[gillberry]

As an entrant you should not pay , without your car or other old vehicle what show have they got .

[giggles]

That's right, gang up on me.