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[FIFTIES CRUISER]

Hi, My Ford Zephyr mark 2 appears to be in mainly original unrestored condion and seems sound underneath. Obviously I want to prevent it deteriating so spraying waxoyl in the sills and box sections would be a good idea. My local classic car garage seems to be against this due to the fact that if and when welding is required in the future the waxoyl could be a problem due to its flammable nature. Any views or advice would be gratefully received.
Cheers, Des.

[Rick]

Hi Des

Welcome to the forum!!! I understand where your garage is coming from, but I think you'd probably be ok if time has passed before any welding was required. Anyone else have any thoughts? I think any volatility early on with flammability would fade over time, but best to check!!!!

Rick
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[buzzy bee]

Hi

I would think there will be little problem, especially as before you weld, you will have to clean the surface metal up anyway.

Cheers

Dave

P.S... Welcome Fifties cruiser!

[Brian M]

I wonder if your local garage doesn't want you to waxoyl so you will have to return when the rust does appear due to lack of any protection!!

I am sure we would have heard of any explosions caused by welding previously waxoyled sections, the product has been around for enough time.

As Buzzy says the surfaces would be cleaned before welding, I would have thought that the older bitumastic based underseals would be just as big a problem, we have all seen underseal adjacent to the area being welded melting and bubbling.

A much more important consideration with waxoyl is not to apply it until all repsraying is completed. The silicon in waxoyl reacts with cellulose and makes its total removal essential before painting.

[Uncle Joe]

I dont use garages myself, simply because I have a tendency to mistrust them.

If I hear a so called professional say something like this, whilst I can understand their reasoning, it just makes me suspect that they are not going to do a good job!

Its totally immaterial if Waxoyl burns or not. If someone is going to repair rust, then all of the rust has to be cut away to good metal, and then the area cleaned. And if its cleaned well enough, then theres no Waxoyl to burn is there?

Just UJ's logic....

UJ

[Rick]

Hi UJ, I think FIFTIES CRUISER meant that his car is in original nick rather than needing repair work, and he wants to preserve it that way, but the garage are saying that it could be a problem, should repairs be needed sometime in the future.

I'm surprised a garage doesn't recommend some form of rust prevention, unless they believe that remedial work may be required sooner rather than later to the underside of the car????

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[Uncle Joe]

Rick, yes, I realise that, but I was just thinking forward to the time when some rust repairs will be needed......

Seems as though most people that have answered this are thinking roughly along the same lines though...

UJ

[Rick]

Ah ok, so I think the general concensus is to apply whatever rust prevention gloop is available, and when/if welding is required in future, strip anything that is flammable out of the way first (any underseals, treatments, trim etc)

I guess the unknown is just how good or not the original underside actually is. Perhaps if the garage are looking at it, and seeing that it will need work doing in 12-18 months, then applying Waxoyl (or similar) is perhaps not really worth the bother? just a thought

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[Uncle Joe]

I suppose that we could give the garage the benefit of the doubt. Really though, if they see any rust that will need treating within the forseeable future, then this should be pointed out now, and repaired before it spreads. Or?

Just a personal opinion, but I'm not sure that any workshop that recommends against rustproofing can be called reputable.

UJ