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Glenn Crawford Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: Re-lining rivetted drum brakes |
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Every time I need to replace drum brake linings I have to send the worn-out linings and shoes away and wait a week while someone else rivets on the new ones. If only I had a hand-operated brake rivetting press... can anyone tell me who sells them? I have spent hours searching on-line, no success. I operate a small business (just me. part-time!) maintaining old cars so this happens several times a year. Your help would be appreciated. |
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buzzy bee Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Hi
I am needing to reline some shoes, I was going to do it the old fashioned way by hand, I have done a few clutch plates this way, but never brakes, and was going to start a thread for advice tonight, seen this thread so hope you don't mind me adding my question on the bottom of your thread!
Cheers
Dave
P.S... Welcome along Glenn Crawford, what oldies are you most interested in? I hazard a guess it may be Riley, which is funny as I have always been told to get a Riley as it is my surname! |
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Glenn Crawford Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Hi Dave, I've owned Rileys for many years - though I'm careful not to restrict my interests just to them! But I will shamelessly promote the Riley "RM" series as one of the most rewarding classics to own from the immediate post-war period. Mine is a 1949 2½-Litre, I've also owned 1½-Litres in the past.
Now... my car will be due new brakes soon... back to topic! How to reliably rivet the linings on? |
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Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22454 Location: UK
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UKdave2002 Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Hi Glenn
I have an old rivet press, which you are welcome to borrow, don't know where you are located, I'm in Cheshire.
You can still but them from US avaiation suppliers , I'm not talking 747 stuff but small private planes. I know this because it was the only place I find that stocked the right sized hollow brass rivets, I have a long band of lining material and cut my own shoes if I can't get them off the shelf, sourcing the rivets was a real pain!
I'll dig the firm out for you, they will ship to the UK.
This is my vice held press;
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: |
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If there still are any real ones left in the UK, these tools are also supplied by Saddlemakers suppliers...
Uj |
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Glenn Crawford Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks one and all, I will get busy on this over the weekend. I'm in Dorset, too far from Nantwich to pop over and borrow a tool, but thanks for the offer! |
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pigtin Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Iv'e been riveting linings on by hand for the last 40 odd years without any special tools: I just use a piece of rod approx the same diameter as the head, fit it tightly in a vice then, starting from the middle of the lining, support the head of each rivet on to the end of the rod and splay the other end of the rivet using a hammer and centre punch,
(it helps to have three hands but it can be done.)
The trick is to do the two centre rivets lightly and then make sure that the other holes are going to line up. If you then work from the middle towards the ends of the linings then you shouldn't have any problems.
Don't worry about the other end of the rivet splitting a little when you use the centre punch, they all used to be like that even when they had been done by a reputable garage and you can always pein it over with a hammer if it makes you feel better. but you must have the rivet head firmly against the rod when you do it.
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buzzy bee Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
That is how I have done clutch plates, place a large parallel punch in the vice, and punch the top of the rivet out. I think this is how I will do my brakes, only I will get a mate to hold the shoe, four hands have got to be good!
Cheers
Dave |
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Glenn Crawford Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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It's the "third hand" I need - and also the right shaped punch so that the rivet is distorted evenly and progressively. I'm working on other peoples' cars in exchange for modest amounts of cash, so I have to get it right.
I've since noticed a secondhand tool on eBay (item 130136165503 if you're curious) so I may have a stab at that. |
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