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Rick
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:44 am    Post subject: Supplying dealer window stickers Reply with quote

Morning all,

The following question came to me via Facebook:

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Hi , do you know if car dealers used window stickers in the 1950s or were there garages just advertised on the back of Barnacle type tax disc holders ?

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Does anyone know when window stickers came into common use, with car sales agencies?

In addition to personalised tax disc holders, many dealers used to affix small badges onto a car's dashboard, or door trim, but presumably stickers/window decals were a lot cheaper.

RJ
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a brand new Triumph motor cycle in 1960 in Southend, Essex and it had a transfer advertising the dealer I bought it from. When I asked for a discount for advertising his business he told me to bu##er off, so I slid the still wet sticker off in front of his eyes before I rode away.

On the bike's first service I collected it earlier than planned and arrived just as a mechanic was about to drill the rear mudguard and fit a great ugly metal plaque advertising the business. Needless to say that it was not fitted!

So yes Rick, advertising stickers were around long ago, certainly much earlier than the 1950's. I have seen original ones on 1930's cars.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not so long ago I photographed an early fifties Rover 75, it was in exceptional condition and original. Tacked to a door capping, I think, was a white plastic label, cream now, with the name of a long gone Berkeley dealer. I thought it added a lot and if I can find the photo I'll post it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much more elegant than a cheap rear window sticker (especially when there's no rear window as such!)



On the only new car I've ever bought, a 1976 Granada Ghia, I gave specific instructions that no stickers were to be applied. Windows are for seeing through, not cluttering up with rubbish.

Back in the 'seventies in South Africa there was an amusing BL sticker on a new Mini Clubman: "When I grow up I want to be a Jag!"

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am looking to source a period 1950s repro rear window dealer sticker or a plaque for my 103e . Any ideas where i might start looking ? . Where would the plaque originally have been placed on the pop if indeed they ever had them . Dealer discretion maybe ? .
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

popdave1964 wrote:
I am looking to source a period 1950s repro rear window dealer sticker or a plaque for my 103e . Any ideas where i might start looking ? . Where would the plaque originally have been placed on the pop if indeed they ever had them . Dealer discretion maybe ? .


Welcome to the forum (any chance of a thread for your Pop?).

Do you know which dealer supplied it originally?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This plaque is on the sill of my Thames Van .[/img]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1955 Morris Minor bought new here in Oz had a 'Lanes Motors' sticker at the bottom of the rear window (backlight). New 1960 Morris 1000 also had one.

Certainly dealer's plaques have been around for a very long time- right back to pre- WW1. There are frequent references to them in the MTFCA forum of them being affixed to the dashboard of Model T Fords.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember my dad buying an FB Holden in 1960 and that had a sticker on the back window for City Motors the agents, but the car he traded was a Mk one Zephyr (horrible thing) and that had an aluminium tag riveted to the dashboard, so I recon the change was taking place during the 50s
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked those original Zephyrs, they went well and handled superbly compared to the others of the day.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty wrote:
... so I recon the change was taking place during the 50s


I would agree: I don't think the plastics technology had developed sufficiently before the war, although there may have been a few water-slide window transfers pre-war. Certainly there were some water-slide transfers applied to dashboards in place of the more usual brass or alloy plates.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashley wrote:
I liked those original Zephyrs, they went well and handled superbly compared to the others of the day.


It probably wasn't the cars fault really but we lived in the country with hardly a sealed road anywhere and I am afraid it just couldn't handle the rough roads. Dad kept it about 40,000 miles and it had 3 sets of front struts put in the suspension in that time, it always ran rough at idle and the mechanics in the bush couldn't seem to fix it then about a month after he traded it he got a notice from the factory to return it for a new vacuum windscreen wiper motor to be put in to do away with some plastic valve that let air into the intake manifold and made some of them run rough. I remember the bonnet flying up and wrapping itself around the windscreen on two separate occasions and I also remember he carried the leg of an old wooden table in the boot to give the starter motor a wallop when it wouldn't engage.
It was a problem from the day he bought it and turned him off Fords of all sorts for 20 years and when he bought a falcon ute 20 years later that was a dud too, it was also the last Ford he ever had anything to do with.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty
I'm guessing Oz was a more brutal test of a car than the UK and that McPherson struts first appeared on that car and not on the concurrent US models, so probably Americans testing new ideas on foreigners.
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