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JR FLYWHEEL · Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 77 Location: Hornchurch Essex

I'd like to post a new subject on the ford pop 103 E

If anyone has owned or worked on one of these cars, in their time i'd be interested to hear about the jobs you did, and any hints or tips you could pass on to me. ( and also any problems you had too.)

I think that if old motor knowledge is not passed on, then it will in time be lost.

Regards to all on here, good forum

Flywheel

Rick · Site Admin Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22811 Location: UK

Hi, yes its always good to get these things recorded for future use isn't it.

For the record, I've owned E83Ws since 1989, in varying states and conditions. Engine-wise its the same as a Pop, so I've a bit of knowledge about working and fiddling with them. The rest of the running gear is virtually the same as the Pop too, usually just a little heavier in build (brakes, axles etc)

I know a few other people on here have Pops, so you should be in good company for finding specific tips and tricks as time goes on Smile

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JR FLYWHEEL · Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 77 Location: Hornchurch Essex

Ok Rick ..Thank you

Flywheel

Rick · Site Admin Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22811 Location: UK

Anything in particular that you're having problems with??

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Rick · Site Admin Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22811 Location: UK

oo can't help with them problems Laughing

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Craig · Joined: 19 Mar 2008 Posts: 80 Location: Frome, Somerset

Right i'll start with the obvious....

The bolt in the timing chain cover with the pin on the head is for finding TDC. Unscrew it, turn it round and push back into the hole. Turn the engine over untill the pin meets the divot in the camshaft sprocket. Then your at TDC on number 1 cylinder.

Handy for timing but i guess you just gota hope it's on the firing stroke.

The engine number tells you what engine it is....

C - 10hp
Y - 8hp
RC - Ford factory reconditioned 10hp
RY - Ford factory reconditioned 8hp

I know everyone who has one knows this but if your looking at buying your first Pop it might help.

buzzy bee · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire

Hi

I know bits but find it hard to just come out with things, I need a nuge of what to chat about! hehe

Cheers

Dave

Uncle Joe · Guest

There are only two things that I remember about these cars. It would be interesting for me if others remembered the same.

First, the petrol pump always seemed to give trouble. Second, they always seemed to overheat in traffic...and remember here, I'm not talking about modern traffic either! One thing that I have wondered, is if these two problems were somehow related....

Old-Nail · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853

The 103e will often cut out in hot weather due to a vapour lock in the fuel.

This may be linked to what UJ referred to above. The metal fuel line from the petrol pump up to the carburettor is so close to the engine that in hot weather the fuel vaporises and temporary fuel starvation stops the motor

The answer of course is to insulate the fuel line or shield it from the heat but the 'period' remedy is much simpler:
Take a wooden clothes peg and stick it on the fuel line between the fuel pump and the carb, this acts as a conduit to dissipate the heat much like a radiator!

Eee by gum it's all coming back to me now Laughing

Rick · Site Admin Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22811 Location: UK

Old-Nail · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853

It is and it was! Laughing

I knew my youth spent reading motoring magazines rather than studying for A levels would come in handy at some point! Laughing

Penman · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4880 Location: Swindon, Wilts.

Hi
Re the Overheating, looking at the engine photo above it would appear to be, as were very many cars back then, a thermal syphon cooling system with no water pump or thermostat.
although traffic levels then were much less than they are now, they were probably greater than they were when that system was first decided on; and that was why they subsequently went over to a pumped system.

JR FLYWHEEL · Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 77 Location: Hornchurch Essex

Many thanks to all who posted,

All bits of infomation and the knowledge that you people have will help other folk keep their own motors running.

A gentleman where i work passed on his own little gem to me, he told me that when he and his mates worked on the old pops years ago, as part of the service work they would remove the butterfly valve from the carb, and emery cloth it, to polish it. He said they believed it improved gas flow , and therefore made the cars "run better" ( i must admit it was a new one on me too.)

If you have any more Hints/tips/info please post them.

Regards

Flywheel

Uncle Joe · Guest

I figure that I could beat the overheating problem quite easily today using a decidedly non classic method, maybe that would stop the vapour locking as well, who knows....