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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008
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Location: Limousin area of France
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This was one of my outbuildings. now thats 60yrs of camouflage
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wrinx
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
Posts: 142
Location: Derbyshire
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| Keith D wrote: | Bearing in mind that I do not live in the UK, nor am I familiar with UK building requirements, but does nobody in Britain build steel garages? They are the cheapest garages in Australia and I have not heard of anybody having problems with them.
I have a 9m x 6m x 2.4m high (30' X 20' X 8' high) steel garage with twin roller doors finished in cream coloured colorbond profiled sheeting. (There are dozens of colours available) The roofs are gabled with a shallow angle. These are by far the cheapest garages to erect in Australia and last for many, many years. The concrete slab and electrical wiring costs would be the same as for any other type of garage. My garage is an economy one, without major roof joists. It is perfectly adequate for car storage, but not for hauling engines out.
I also have a steel workshop 9m x 6m x 3m high (30' X 20' X 9' high) that is similar to look at but has a heavy duty, engineered open web joist type roof truss that enables me to hang a winch below and to lift V8 and vintage cast iron engines complete with gearbox with no visible deflection. There are two large sliding doors. The cost of the heavy duty workshop would be about 60% greater than for the lightweight garage.
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No idea why domestic dwellings don't use them more....perhaps they're just considered to be more for industrial purposes? Or, perhaps steel+UK climate worries people 
This is not bad
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clascar
Joined: 27 Oct 2008
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Location: mid cheshire
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hopefully we will be moving to pastures new sometime this year. I will leave behind my concrete sectional double garage and integral single garage. The new place only has a single garage and I will be looking to add a decent size double garage. in the large rear garden.
A concrete sectional one was my first choice, based on price, speed of build and past experience. Whilst I was surfing I found a company that will do a steel building for a comparable price, but bigger in size and most importantly extra height for my longed for lift. My only concern is will it be suitable for a decent size urban garden. I don't want to upset the neighbours or attract the jobs worths at the local council. Any body got any thoughts please.
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Phil - Nottingham
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
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Location: Nottingham
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Check with local council - most garages will not require planning permission if kept below certain height and distance from boundaries but they will more than likely need building reg approval. The manufacturer will supply the plans/spec
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Rich5ltr
Joined: 28 Mar 2008
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Location: Hampshire, UK
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Unfortunately my council couldn't be more difficult! My house was already extended before I bought it and there is a limit of 30 sq mtrs footprint permitted development. Anything over that needs planning permission. Then because I live in a zone 3 flood area I must have 30cm high x 1 mtr long gaps in three of the walls and a 10 cm gap under the door - Garage? That's a bloody car port, I'll have all the cats, frogs and squirrels living in there, not to mention how the hell is one meant to keep it dehumidified and heated above freezing? I showed the planner what I meant by a garage and he laughed!!!  |
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pigtin
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: Herne Bay
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Could you get away with a temporary building, like a wooden or sectional garage?
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Brian M
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex
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| Rich5ltr wrote: | | Unfortunately my council couldn't be more difficult! My house was already extended before I bought it and there is a limit of 30 sq mtrs footprint permitted development. Anything over that needs planning permission. Then because I live in a zone 3 flood area I must have 30cm high x 1 mtr long gaps in three of the walls and a 10 cm gap under the door - Garage? That's a bloody car port, I'll have all the cats, frogs and squirrels living in there, not to mention how the hell is one meant to keep it dehumidified and heated above freezing? I showed the planner what I meant by a garage and he laughed!!! |
We recently looked at downsizing and found a smaller house in a green belt area that had already had the maximum permitted development, but stood in over three acres. I spoke to my local council regarding the additional garaging I wanted and with a knowing wink he suggested I called it a stable as I could have a 20m x 15m steel shed, which was appropriate to the area available for grazing the number of horses that would be comfortable in that area of enclosed space. What I actually kept in it was up to me! Unfortunately we were beaten to the purchase by a cash buyer.
I don't know the flood regulations but you couldn't possibly keep horses in a draughty stable - could you?
Just a thought.
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magic9r
Joined: 13 Dec 2008
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If you use a bolt together steel building on a concrete hard standing with only rawl bolts holding it down it's a temporary structure 
My 3m X 5m "shed" is purely temporary storage, honest guv
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