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What is the age of this car please
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Pat Russell



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: What is the age of this car please Reply with quote

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I am doing some research into women motorists , going back to the invention of the motor car.

I came across this lovely picture .I was particularly interested in the clothes worn.However how about all you experts telling me what make is the car? Pat

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RotaryBri



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that it is a 6HP Panhard et Levassor from Paris made around 1896.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: Thanks for identifying this. Reply with quote

RotaryBri wrote:
I believe that it is a 6HP Panhard et Levassor from Paris made around 1896.


Thank you so much for this info. I looked at the picture and saw "Lac" in the background French for lake I think.

How did you know about the make , do you have a reference book on veteran cars or an encyclopaedic knowledge of them all ? If it is a reference book, could you let me know the title .My family are always asking what I want for my birthday .
I looked on the Veteran Car Association website and they do a video on that of the London to Brighton rally..fascinating but only three women driving.
Many thanks..Pat
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best book that I know of is 'Brighton Belles' (cars not drivers) by David Burgess-Wise, in fact there is a picture of a virtually identical car on the front cover Smile . I think it is out print but you can still obtain it new through Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1861267649/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1253447613&sr=8-1&condition=new
Newcastle Books is someone I know from an internet group, and I would recommend him. Just don't mention Geoff from the Cave Wink

A liittle while ago there was a programme on the telly where Penelope Keith was retracing the jpurney of an early female motorist, but I don't know if it is available on DVD.

Geoff
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Pat Russell



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re books on veteran cars Reply with quote

alfanut wrote:
The best book that I know of is 'Brighton Belles' (cars not drivers) by David Burgess-Wise, in fact there is a picture of a virtually identical car on the front cover Smile . I think it is out print but you can still obtain it new through Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1861267649/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1253447613&sr=8-1&condition=new
Newcastle Books is someone I know from an internet group, and I would recommend him. Just don't mention Geoff from the Cave Wink

A liittle while ago there was a programme on the telly where Penelope Keith was retracing the jpurney of an early female motorist, but I don't know if it is available on DVD.

Geoff


Thank you..I have just ordered this book from Amazon.All my reference books were on horses and labradors oh how it has changed!!Many thanks Pat
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat,

I knew that I had seen a picture of this car in one of my books and I found an identical one in 'Daimler 1896 to 1946' by St John C. Nixon.

Daimler bought one of these in 1896 and tested it with their own engine fitted and a photograph in the book shows it to be identical to your picture. The picture shows it to be driven by the infamous Harry J. Lawson at Brighton on the occasion of the 'Emancipation' Run on Saturday 14th November 1896.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RotaryBri wrote:
Pat,

I knew that I had seen a picture of this car in one of my books and I found an identical one in 'Daimler 1896 to 1946' by St John C. Nixon.

Daimler bought one of these in 1896 and tested it with their own engine fitted and a photograph in the book shows it to be identical to your picture. The picture shows it to be driven by the infamous Harry J. Lawson at Brighton on the occasion of the 'Emancipation' Run on Saturday 14th November 1896.


Thank you so much for this info...I'll have to look up Harry.J. Lawson ,the infamous,a name not known to me.I'll try to resist trying to buy the Daimler book..

Just thanks to all the Forum members who keep me informed about all my queries,much appreciated...Pat

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[/img] We refuse to dress like this when Pat finds a Bullnose.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Super book on veteran cars Reply with quote

alfanut wrote:
The best book that I know of is 'Brighton Belles' (cars not drivers) by David Burgess-Wise, in fact there is a picture of a virtually identical car on the front cover Smile . I think it is out print but you can still obtain it new through Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1861267649/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1253447613&sr=8-1&condition=new
Newcastle Books is someone I know from an internet group, and I would recommend him. Just don't mention Geoff from the Cave Wink

A liittle while ago there was a programme on the telly where Penelope Keith was retracing the jpurney of an early female motorist, but I don't know if it is available on DVD.

Geoff


Thank you Geoff I ordered this from Amazon and received a brand new copy at an incredibly reasonable price.I've been comparing the photos.
The stories accompanying the cars are so enjoyable.

So many thanks...Pat
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